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    So I'm doing my Ixali Dailies...

    That very bottom Dragon looks like an Ixali... Like really... Same curvature of the horns... Same beak with teeth... What the hell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    So I'm doing my Ixali Dailies...

    That very bottom Dragon looks like an Ixali... Like really... Same curvature of the horns... Same beak with teeth... What the hell?
    Now that I remember, the Ixaly ( the good ones ) mensions a place on the heavens ( I dont remember the name ) where their ancestors lived. Im thinking, on heavensward and all that about the floating islands. could it be that we may visit that place?
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    I see the resemblance, although I think it looks more like Hippogryphs who're also a type of dragon:


    Many of the dragons we've fought share some physical characteristics the Celestial Dragons, which is unsurprising seeing that their the progenitors of the dragon race
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    If Bahamut is shown, it has to be #4. Bahamut has a short/stocky neck which only would allow for #1 (obviously not bahamut cause it's white), #4 (Bahamut if he's even counted among the Celestials), and #5 (obviously not bahamut due to horns around mouth). The other possibilities all have long, serpentine necks.
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    Unless his form changed from his life to his summoning. That could very well have happened, and in life he could have looked nothing like how he did as a summoned Primal.
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    There are only 7 dragons on the chart and one of them is Middy. So I think it's safe to assume Bahamut isn't on there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Is it possible to kill a Primal for good? Maybe.
    Well, if you committed genocide on the Beastmen/Summoners who summoned the primal,destroyed any soulstones that contained "memories" of said primal and destroyed any texts related to the primal then you'd be able to destroy the primal for good. So it's possible in theory just not feasible in reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Now that I remember, the Ixaly ( the good ones ) mensions a place on the heavens ( I dont remember the name ) where their ancestors lived. Im thinking, on heavensward and all that about the floating islands. could it be that we may visit that place?
    That would be Ayatlan, which is probably the name of that floating continent we'll be visiting in the expansion. Assuming it is adjascent to the Abalathian Sea of Clouds area, that would put it right over Xelphaltol.

    On a side note, what if that highlighted dragon is the "Lord of Snakes" in that Garuda myth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    That would be Ayatlan, which is probably the name of that floating continent we'll be visiting in the expansion. Assuming it is adjascent to the Abalathian Sea of Clouds area, that would put it right over Xelphaltol.

    On a side note, what if that highlighted dragon is the "Lord of Snakes" in that Garuda myth?
    You mean the true god/father/ancestor of the Ixali? beacuse if you all remember, they Ixali started to praying Gaurda time afer they lost their ability to fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    You mean the true god/father/ancestor of the Ixali? beacuse if you all remember, they Ixali started to praying Gaurda time afer they lost their ability to fly.
    The Lord of Snakes was the enemy of the Ixali, if anything. He stole their ability to fly (think it was implied he stole flight from everything, actually) until Garuda defeated him, but suffering a mortal wound she was forced to eat his flesh which lead to her insanity, making her a Broken Angel.

    I've actually started developing a crazy theory now following some recent reveals... Yes quite crazy actually, feel free to disregard this;

    I'm serious, this is probably a dumb waste of your time.
    Firstly;
    Floating Continent
    While working on the settings, I become well versed in genetic manipulation & bioengineering → Koji
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    OK, so the new Floating Continent has something to do with genetic manipulation and bioengineering? Well, we've seen the place. It looks very much like an Allagan construct. They had clones, makes sense...

    Oh hello Warring Triad, what are you doing here?

    For anyone he who needs a refresher on the Warring Triad lore; They were three gods who, fearing each others power, began a war. The mortals caught between them in this war were turned into Espers, and stripped of their free will fought in the War of the Magi. Eventually, the Warring Triad saw the chaos they had caused returned free will to the Espers and sealed themselves away, turning to stone.

    Hmm... We have a Floating Continent with Allagan Constructs? Well firstly... The Calamity which destroyed the Allag was Earth based, you think people on a Floating Continent would be safe during that? I do... So... We have some Allagan survivors on this Floating Continent. Their Empire has just been, quite literally, swallowed up by the earth. What do they do from the lofty perch? Start fighting for dominance, of course. Ancient Allag had bested even death itself, Xandes sunk with his Tower. One of them could forge a new Empire, leading it for eternity.

    There of these survivors eventually remain (or there were only ever three, which ever). As the Allagans seemed to, they start manipulating their bodies, engineering them into monstrosities which just so happen to resemble the Warring Triad. They start abducting lesser races that survived on the surface, manipulating their genetics and engineering them into grand monstrosities to fight for them. These monstrosities lead their former kin to fight as well, creating many of the mythos surrounding the Beast Tribes Primals. Yes, the Allag created Ifrit and co. They made legendary beasts which tribes revered as Gods, eventually summoning them from beyond the grave (see: Final Coil spoilers). One of the Triad created the Lord of Snakes, a creature able to somehow prevent flight. This prevented his enemies from reaching the Floating Continent. In response Garuda was created (presumably the the Goddess of the Warring Triad, given the more human form) and defeated the Lord of Snakes, though at the cost of her life, and sanity.

    Eventually, much like the FFVI Warring Triad, the three realize the chaos they'd created, the Primals they'd created (Allagan weren't big on Primals iirc). They stopped. Sealed away their creations. Created an immortal Dragon to guard that seal. Had Twelve of their creations set things right. Then turned to stone.

    Now... The bonus question... Did the Goddess turn into a giant Crystal? Did the Fiend or Demon turn into a certain statue we see the Ascians hang out around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    The theory
    LOL is is really a crazy theory. I agree totaly that there must be some relation with the Warring Triad. But for the rest we have yet to see how will be( to be honest, I was ignorant to this lore content, I dont know how could I miss all this ).
    First we need to understand that you are saing that this "Lord of Snakes" is one of the 7 children of Midgarsomir, so its difficult for me to think that he is dead to, and so if he is not dead, how will the lore surround him would it be?

    So many questions, we will have to wait for 3,0 :/
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