Something I've wondered about T13

[Zantusken]

Does anyone else wonder if there's some sort of missed mechanic with Teraflare? I remember at one time SE has said that every fight in the game is designed to be winnable with no LB at all(no source on this, but I remember hearing about it quite a bit). With no tank LB or mitigations, teraflare hits for over over 12k damage. This is standing in the neurolink. How exactly are we meant to survive this if the fight is supposed to be winnable with no LB? Just something I thought about for months but never bothered to bring up.

[Lyrinn]

Simple answer: they changed their stance or decided it was ok for the final fight of the raid.

[VargasVermillion]

I think they did it because the tank limit break is never used, so they'll create a reason for it to be used, much like Ultima weapon HM

[Vena_Sera]

Terraflare was meant to be T13's hard HP check. Which, without crafted gear, you would not be able to meet without sufficient gear. So, one could only assume, without tank LB, you'd need maximum mitigation (Covenant, succor, stoneskin, soil) in order to survive without lb.

[ServerCollaps]

they did it, that groups cant bypass the whole add phase by simply using caster lb 3

[ZephyrZ]

Does anyone else wonder if there's some sort of missed mechanic with Teraflare? I remember at one time SE has said that every fight in the game is designed to be winnable with no LB at all(no source on this, but I remember hearing about it quite a bit). With no tank LB or mitigations, teraflare hits for over over 12k damage. This is standing in the neurolink. How exactly are we meant to survive this if the fight is supposed to be winnable with no LB? Just something I thought about for months but never bothered to bring up.

Probably survivable if you have every type of mitigation up but not sure. It makes as much sense as DF for t13, certain roles such as WHM + SCH + Bard need to locked in. Without a bard, you wipe during phase 3 no matter what cuz whm ran out of mp. Most of the time, if you get sch + sch or whm + whm, you do nothing but waste 15minutes to just abandon.

[Staris]

You can survive it without LB

[Kaisha]

You can survive it without LB

With tank LB2 and buffs you're hit for 6.5k'ish. I'd like to see how a group would manage to survive Teraflare without LB at all, without melding a huge ton of VIT materia.

[Staris]

30 vit, 110 crafted vit right side,
adlo on everyone (non tank), stoneskin on everyone
ect ect

very doable, just not reasonable when you can just tank LB.

[KarstenS]

Without a bard, you wipe during phase 3 no matter what cuz whm ran out of mp.

I was running T13 nearly every day last weeks. There were rarely some fights without unnecessary damage and I got it manages to heal these fights without ballad (solo healed phase 3). In one fight I was really surprised. Had more than 2k mana left.

Its doable without bard, but heavily depends on a close to perfect group.