Hurray! Finally saved up 6mil for my personal house!

[Spy]

I'm thinking I should just give up ever really having a personal house...my server is just too populated. Which sucks because housing is one of my favorite aspects of mmo's that I've played. I have a personal room, but I've hit cap on it, and it's just not the same...

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I'd be fine if I could invite people to my inn room.

[Vlady]

I think a combo of instanced housing and traditional non instance should be mixed in then. Having a new area of each city-state can take you to an instanced area for those who wish to purchase small housing and if you want a FC or larger house then the wards should be left alone imo. Anything that helps burn out all of this floating gil is always good for the long term health of the mmo.

[Welsper59]

Not everyone wants to join an existing guild. Many people like to start their own with close knit friends or want more control of how its run, maybe they want to be recognized as a particular guild. Lots of the big guilds have requirements you have to meet and or maintain. This is not always an option, especially when the FC's are limited in their members. i have heard of some FC's that have to make more than one FC just to accommodate all its members. What might be a solution and is coming for 3.0 is FC alliances, but how limited will they be? How about furnishing? You might be able to get a room but that's not what people expect when they hear housing.

That might be a solution for some people but is not a permanent solution, especially when you are hoping to appeal to new players. Many MMO players are interested in housing and it can really sell someone on their game. I would happily sacrifice the neighborhood setup for something like the Georama setup in WKC or the plots in WildStar.

There really are no permanent (and realistic) solutions. A permanent solution is one that has infinite resources, which isn't going to happen. Besides those fantastical ideas, every other solution will work well for only some. Take for example your willingness to sacrifice the neighborhood setup. A lot of FCs quite enjoy this and actually befriend each other because of it. I know my old FC did just that after our neighbor FC invited me to a wedding and told me to invite as many folks as I could. We never spoke to each other prior to their hilariously awesome wedding ceremony, and turns out that they were Twitch casters like a large portion of my former FC. That meetup would never have happened in the single instanced setup.

With the relevance that housing has in Heavensward, I'd imagine they'll do something about the limitations we currently face. Not only do they have to think about FC needs for housing, but also the individual player. I doubt they'll go with the individual instance design for (current) housing though, as there are additional factors at play with how it currently is, such as varying prices of location. There's essentially additional value being looked at. At the very least though, when it comes to expansion content, expect some sort of work-around to provide access (be it the FC alliance idea or not). Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed FCs to use facilities in Ishgard for this purpose, perhaps at an in-game fee, with housing ones being the more ideal due to less crowds (i.e. privacy).

[MageBlack]

There really are no permanent (and realistic) solutions. A permanent solution is one that has infinite resources, which isn't going to happen. Besides those fantastical ideas, every other solution will work well for only some. Take for example your willingness to sacrifice the neighborhood setup. A lot of FCs quite enjoy this and actually befriend each other because of it. I know my old FC did just that after our neighbor FC invited me to a wedding and told me to invite as many folks as I could. We never spoke to each other prior to their hilariously awesome wedding ceremony, and turns out that they were Twitch casters like a large portion of my former FC. That meetup would never have happened in the single instanced setup.

First off, that wasnt what I was saying in the example you used. I was saying take the personal house option out of the existing wards and create a secondary single plot instance system for personal homes. This opens up wards for FC homes, more people can get company homes in a community lot while personal homes are generated as per use instances instead of having empty lots on some servers while others are over full from day one. There are many other examples throughout this thread of ways they can do it, it could be handled, etc. Several are in my Original post on page one.

With the relevance that housing has in Heavensward, I'd imagine they'll do something about the limitations we currently face. Not only do they have to think about FC needs for housing, but also the individual player. I doubt they'll go with the individual instance design for (current) housing though, as there are additional factors at play with how it currently is, such as varying prices of location. There's essentially additional value being looked at. At the very least though, when it comes to expansion content, expect some sort of work-around to provide access (be it the FC alliance idea or not). Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed FCs to use facilities in Ishgard for this purpose, perhaps at an in-game fee, with housing ones being the more ideal due to less crowds (i.e. privacy).

This is, in essence, all I want right now, some confirmation that it is on their radar, if this is even something they see as an issue. Last I remember them even saying about it was the team that does housing is doing the Golden Saucer and werent avaliable to work on anything else.

[Verdan]

Why is it such a given that they can't generate enough districts for demand? Do we have such low expectations that 'making a system work' is too much?

[Sapphic]

One thing they should have done is make it 1 personal house per account with all rights automatically given to all chars created on that account. So you don't have players buying X number of houses. If spacing wasn't limited it wouldn't be an issue, but it is. Which they should still do, refund cost they paid for any extra houses over 1 and put them back out to sell.

In before, yes I do have a house and could have bought multiple ones. But I ain't greedy.

[MageBlack]

One thing they should have done is make it 1 personal house per account with all rights automatically given to all chars created on that account. So you don't have players buying X number of houses. If spacing wasn't limited it wouldn't be an issue, but it is. Which they should still do, refund cost they paid for any extra houses over 1 and put them back out to sell.

In before, yes I do have a house and could have bought multiple ones. But I ain't greedy.

That would be a big help. I still think the personal housing and FC housing should have been completely separate. Even if they had the same format, just separate designated wards strictly for personal. And not have the housing servers be data center wide but instead be server based. It would make it easier to make new wards depending on supply and demand. As it stands, if they add a new ward for Balmung (high pop, no available plots), a new one is also added for Litch (Lower pop, Many available plots) so their reasoning for not adding wards was, "There are still some empty plots and it would be wasted resources."

[Rendecrow]

I don't understand why they just don't make a ton of housing instances. When one fills up, auto create another one, as many times as is needed. Set a base price for housing at 2 mil (or whatever) and make it so anyone with the minimum money can buy a house.

As a new player I do find it kind of disappointing that I can't get a house anytime soon. I do understand that things need to be earned, but on my server I am probably going to have to wait a year or two before I can afford one..... It's not really fair to new players like me. I'd be ok with this if it only took me a few months to afford one, but that's not reality right now on most high population servers.

[Rendecrow]

I'll never understand how people will pick the single most populated server in a game, which in this case is Balmung, and then complain when there are more people competing for scarce resources. It's been like this on every MMO ever made since forever. If it matters that much to you, there are many other servers which have S plots available.

People like to play where the people are. I always roll toons on high population servers simply because I like to see other people running around while I am leveling. As far as "scarce resource" goes, give me one good reason why housing has to be scarce? I see no reason why they can't just double the amount of housing instances on higher population servers.