Dark Knight: how i dream about it

[Seferex]

Hello everybody, probably nobody ever care to read this topic xD but i wanted to talk with you all what i wish to see in the new DRK and want to know what you think about it.

First of all, what kind of tank should be the DRK?
Actually we have:

- PLD: The "classic" tank with mitigation CD with the 123 rotation.
- WAR: The 2.0 idea was really interesting, a self heal tank but they failed on it and they opted to give him something of the PLD to mitigate the damage (bad choice imo, i would give the WAR a stance that does the same as bloodpath and give him MORE HP to avoid to be oneshotted).

So what could they give to the DRK so that it can have its own personality?

A DPS tank bubble

You will say me "if you want to dps, dont do the tank" and i will reply sure.. But if we just want another job similar to the 2 others, why should i choice the DRK? Only for the "dark" part? No, at least me, don't want to choice a job for being an emo...

[Seferex]

What is my idea of dps tank?
I would give him a stance that decrease defence (yes, decrease defence like -50%) and that boost DPS (like +30%?) while give him a % of dmg dealt as bubble shield (similar to the SCH's one).
The bubble's shield should have the same defence of the DRK + some %.
This would make the tank fun to play (just imo) cause he MUST do dps if he wants to survive, cause if the boss will surpass the bubble shield, will hit the DRK for more damage (cause he gets less defence cause of the stance) than any other tank, but the dmg will be mitigated if the "bubble" is big enough (cause of the high defence)

Plus i would give the DRK the INT and PIE as main stats and give him only normal VIT.


What you think about my idea? You think is stupid or could work?

Offcourse, the developers already made the DRK, so actually this topic is useless xD but i wish to dream for a different tank job, and this would be wonderfull for me!

P.S. i apologize for my crappy english

[alphamax112]

They will stick to VIT as main stat, believe me

[Seferex]

Well the idea is to make the DRK unique :P thats why i thought about this kind of tank :P

If you think how i said, VIT would be too OP (and maybe is OP even with less VIT xD ), cause will make him like a super WAR.
In this way, the DRK should know when to dps hard or he would be oneshotted...
If you give him even the same VIT as pld and war, there is no point to have EVEN the bubbles shield

[stoxastic]

What we know is that DRK will require good mana management to play effectively. I'd like the DRK mana management to be tied directly to their ability to mitigate damage. This way if you poorly manage your mana you will lose your mitigation and become really squishy. I would just like the class to be really challenging to play.

[Seferex]

Offcourse the idea is that they use MP to do heavy damage... So that you must use your strongest abilities to deal with stuff like death sentence, giga flare etc. and avoid to use them during the "normal" hits.
In this way you must avoid to dry your MP before any big hit in order to use the ability that does DPS that allow you to shield you with bubble

[SirTaint]

They will stick to STR as main stat, believe me

Fixed this for you. VIT is like ACC, once you have enough more is useless. STR is the stat that you stack as much as possible for WAR/PLD just like it is for MNK/DRG. The only difference is PLD/WAR have higher VIT requirements.

[Seferex]

I think will be INT cause is supposed to use magic... So i would not mind a tank that instead of STR use INT for damage (like the nin use dex for dmg).
With my idea (that may be impossible to make even if i hope is possible), if you have EVEN vitality, you will be an immortal tank xD
The point is to be squishy as a normal dps if your shield goes down


By the way, i dont play the tank role since twintania, so i would not mind if someone that is more expert than me on tanking (should be easy lol), tell me WHY my idea is shit/good

I've read the whole discussion about the pld's dps, so maybe many of you would disagree to have a tank that does DPS (offcourse not like a real dps, but more than pld and war) and is able to tank...

We all agree anyway that we don't want to see a "123" tank (the reason why i left the tank before)

[wentouch]

Magic enhanced (elemental) physical attacks which do either AOE or DOT damage, or a debuff.

[myahele]

Being MP-based means that you don't have to worry too much when it comes to running low on MP

You'll have the option to:
1. Use Ether potions (VERY useful since you can never replenish TP via potion)
2. Use Piety materia and/or accessories
3. Benefit from Mage's Ballad

Who knows, maybe they'll have a cleric stance-like ability that converts STR into INT? Since they'll probably be sharing the same end-game tank gear are the other tanks