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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Quest gear, and items dropped in level 51-59 dungeons.
    None of the post-Praetorium Main Scenario quests currently give any gear, and 51+ dungeons presumably require completion of Steps of Faith (i90 average required) first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I thought they said they would accelerate it.

    I don't like to guess, but some people here are expecting the kind of increase you would get in a regular patch, so I want to add some numbers I feel are more realistic for an expansion...


    Lv55-59 gear .... item level 140 - 150
    Lv60 dungeon gear ... iLv 160 - 170
    tomes of law ... iLv 180
    alexander loot ... iLv 190
    tomes of esoterics .... iLv 190 (upgrade to 200)
    alexander savage ... iLv 200
    I expect that your guesses are a bit to extreme.

    i100 is supposed to be entry level gear for the level 50+ content based on requirements to clear main story quests and gear granted by the dungeons that need to be completed to unlock Heavensward. I'm guessing that Heavensward won't start handing out the gear that out classes Poetics until Level 60. The which ever portion of the 8 new dungeons are the "leveling" dungeons will likely have gear covering i110, i120 and i130. Level 60 dungeon and Law gear will likely be the first upgrades for people in i130.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    I guess, maybe if you don't know that a tome is a word usually used to describe large, heavy books? The item description of Unidentified and Encrypted tomestones state that they're full of information about the Allagan empire. I dunno, I don't see how people mix up a grave marker with an ancient hi-tech book, but maybe it's just me. xD
    We humans read words the don't read the individual letters, but the pattern of letters. Tombstone and Tomestone are ~89% identical, so when speed reading/speed typing making the mistake of going with the more common word (Tombstone) over the rarer word (Tomestone) is not surprising.
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    Not to mention the icon for Tomestones look nothing like a Tome, but rather a slab of stone...hence the escalated amount of confusion. I honestly wish they looked more "Tome"-like in the icon but whatever...Tombstone, Tomestone which ever one is being said 100% of the player based knows what the heck you're talking about.
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    People need to remember that not everyone will buy the expansion. There needs to be a currency left for those that do not have access to the new ones so presumably Soldiery will be removed and all current tomestone stuff will be available with uncapped Poetics.

    As for what ilvl we'll be getting: Yoshi has already said in several interviews that he feels the current rate of increase in item level is too fast and that he intends to slow it down. Chances are we'll see increases of 5 levels at a time from now on instead of 10. I would expect the base item level range for the new 60 cap to be anything from 140 to 150 (it has to be higher than 135 or many players will already be geared at the new cap). From there I imagine the first of the new tomestones will allow us a 5 level increase and the second (when it unlocks a month later) another 5 level increase.

    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Not to mention the icon for Tomestones look nothing like a Tome, but rather a slab of stone...hence the escalated amount of confusion. I honestly wish they looked more "Tome"-like in the icon but whatever...Tombstone, Tomestone which ever one is being said 100% of the player based knows what the heck you're talking about.
    They're the Allagan equivalent of tablet computers or e-book readers. Rowena has said as much in the past. To be quite fair though, I can understand mis-reading the word the first couple of times if you're not familiar with it... but continuing to do it for 18 months? There's no excuse for that beyond sheer laziness.
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    Last edited by Alberel; 04-17-2015 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    As for what ilvl we'll be getting: Yoshi has already said in several interviews that he feels the current rate of increase in item level is too fast and that he intends to slow it down. Chances are we'll see increases of 5 levels at a time from now on instead of 10. I would expect the base item level range for the new 60 cap to be anything from 140 to 150 (it has to be higher than 135 or many players will already be geared at the new cap). From there I imagine the first of the new tomestones will allow us a 5 level increase and the second (when it unlocks a month later) another 5 level increase.
    Can you find a source for that as that's very contradictory to what was said to Famitsu at PAX East?

    Will the flow of obtaining higher and higher level items with each patch be the same as before?
    Yoshida: Increasing the upper limit will be the same as it has, but the overall range of available items will be wider than before. Along with that, the number of different steps of available equipment will be higher than before.
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...29-Translation

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    Presuming FFXIV follows the set example, as it has been in the past, there should be a significant item level gap between ARR and Heavensward. We will most likely be replacing FCoB gear in the first half of levels after 50 and then eventually replacing them with new AF for almost sure. I doubt they would make the mistake Blizzard did with BC -> WotLK with making Level 70 raid gear BIS for entry into Level 80 raids.
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    Last edited by SongJoohee; 04-17-2015 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Well since there are Law and Esoteric Tomestones that were mentioned, its probably

    Law = 130 > 135-140
    Esoteric = 140 > 145-150

    Depends on whether or not they want to keep increasing by ten, but I could've thought they said that they were going to slow down the item level climb, but I could be wrong. Hell its all speculation at this point.
    i remember saying yoshi-p saying he wanted a wider gap between Ilvls so it might be
    Law 200 (accounting for the 10 levels we are levelling with a 50 ilvl from dreadwyrm (plus extra to make it higher then crafted gear
    esoterics's 240 to 250 because this will be higher then alex hard mode but lower then alex savage mode (which is 250 or 260)

    yes i know i went on the higher end :P just thinking big the numbers may be smaller but there will be a gap D:
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    Last edited by DracotheDragon; 04-17-2015 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    They could be leaving Soldiery/Poetics in for people that haven't purchased the expansion. *shrugs*
    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    A year and a half later, and people are still calling TOMESTONES, tombstones /sigh
    Look I made a mistake okay?
    Ok ok the word is Tomestone, sorry like another that post a comment over there, I was not familiar with the word. Now please instead for bothering me of my silly mistake, could you just answer my questions?
    Instead of saing nonssence that doesnt have any relation with the topic? Beacuse I'm almost sure that I wrotte some interesting questions >_>.
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 04-17-2015 at 01:35 PM.

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    Since the tomestones of erotics will be released 1 month after launch I am guessing Poetics will be unlimited while Law will have a weekly lockout.

    After a month poetics will be phased out and it'll be law for unlimted and the erotics for the lockouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    tomestones of erotics
    o///o
    well then!
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    Yosi-P did say that they tuned the Alexander Normal and Hard raids such that you need to farm Normal if you want to succeed in Hard. So there most likely will be a significant gap at least between AlexH loot and the entry Lv 60 loot. We also know that Lv 51 gear will not be higher than iLv 135.

    My guess is:
    Lv 55 at iLv 135
    Lv 60 at iLv 140
    Law gear and AlexN loot at iLv 150
    Esoterics gear at iLv 160
    AlexH loot at iLv 165-170

    One thing I feel would be key is how Yoshi-P says the available iLv diversity will be wide. I'm guessing that it means different itemization at the top-end with minor differences in iLv (e.g. only 5 iLv difference) that may make a lower iLv item better for a particular job due to the itemization.

    As tank though, we're probably still going to be looking at just Accuracy and iLv, unless they untie primary stats from the iLv.
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