Land Needs Are Unmet on Balmung

[Intaki]

if we just give them out to everyone, then they cannot be.

This isn't the real world. This is a computer game. And the housing system in this computer game is an utter embarrassment and stain on the quality of the product as a whole. Especially when other lesser games are delivering far better housing systems far more effectively.

[tocsin]

This isn't the real world. This is a computer game. And the housing system in this computer game is an utter embarrassment and stain on the quality of the product as a whole. Especially when other lesser games are delivering far better housing systems far more effectively.

"effectively" is a very subjective term. so is "embarrassment and stain".

I tried Wildstar, and RIFT, and UO, and WoW, and countless other MMO's, and, other than UO, who regulated their housing limitations by pure landmass (open world housing, but only so much open space), all of the other MMO's with housing have failed to make them a point of desire. If everyone has a house, no one cares about houses. it is a disincentive for communal socialization, and encourages individuals to solo play.

As I said, I'm quite pleased with the lack of housing in FFXIV. That's also a subjective opinion. I think this is just a point where we can agree to disagree.

I'm just saying, that, looking at the game as a whole, there is a hell of a lot worse things going on than "Balmung doesn't have enough house plots".

[GenJoe]

Also, it's not just Balmung's problem anymore.
Even on Jenova, one of the smallest servers, there's 0 small plots. Medium plots in the range of ~15 or so and 7 mansion plots left.

Lot more than 0 I know but I'm willing to wager that by May, all the mansion plots will be bought out and by June, all the medium ones also..

My point? Housing shortage may be by design.. if it wasn't meant to be this way, there's no reason the newest and smallest of servers would have 0 houses left after just about a year of being open.

[tocsin]

Also, it's not just Balmung's problem anymore.
Even on Jenova, one of the smallest servers, there's 0 small plots. Medium plots in the range of ~15 or so and 7 mansion plots left.

Lot more than 0 I know but I'm willing to wager that by May, all the mansion plots will be bought out and by June, all the medium ones also..

My point? Housing shortage may be by design.. if it wasn't meant to be this way, there's no reason the newest and smallest of servers would have 0 houses left after just about a year of being open.

"one of the smallest servers" was Jenova 5 months ago, before transfers opened. as of recent character creation restrictions, Jenova is now one of the top 10 Highest population servers on FFXIV.

Makes sense that 4 months ago, before "transferring to Jenova" became popular, we had entire wards unfilled. It makes sense, now, that housing attracted more players.

System working as intended.

[Intaki]

If everyone has a house, no one cares about houses.

Right, because they're too busy actually playing with their house to have the time to jerk themselves off to how great they are to have a house to lord over all the worthless plebs beneath them.

[Verdan]

If everyone has a house, no one cares about houses.

If everyone has a house, everyone cares about housing. It becomes a system everyone interacts with, rather than something for a relatively small number of people to enjoy.

I know this is your opinion, but what you don't seem to realize is that it's a terrible opinion.

And yeah, it may be by design that housing shortages come about. Which is why I'm adamant about bumping the thread and talking about it, cause that's a crappy way to design a system unless there's technical shortcomings. Don't put a lot of work into a system that it's possible people will be completely locked out of.

[elemental10]

Come to Zalera. We have smalls for less than 1m.

The catch is, you most likely won't have neighbours.

[MsCroc]

I do believe that there is no real advantage to playing on a large or small server, but there is a difference between having longer queue times and not being able to access a certain piece of content at all.

Also:

-Housing was in the ARR trailer and listed as a major feature of the game.

-Housing was never said to be an exclusive feature until after SE attempted to justify their inability to supply new housing wards.

-A lot of content is gated behind housing including: chocobo dyeing, gardening, chocobo raising, FC airships, and the actual housing parts themselves.

I get that some folks around here like the sense of accomplishment it took....but really all I see are people lording it over people's heads for not quitting real life to be able to experience a desirable aspect of in game content.

TL;DR is differing queue times and market boards are just different ice cream flavors of the same content. Housing is an entire segment of gameplay people are barred from.

[Mirakumi]

Yeah so coming into a housing forum where everyone cares about housing, and saying no one cares, is really stupid. Just saying.

I feel like it should have been where FC Housing is separate from Personal Housing. Different Zones, also people can only have one house.
There's a guy on my server who has one FC house where he's the only member after inviting a bunch of people to kick them out and One personal housing. I feel like it should be World/Account Bound that you can't have more than one household.

That's just my feeling on it.

[Zelas]

I feel like it should be World/Account Bound that you can't have more than one household.

That would certainly help with the current "housing hoarding" issue where people own several houses across alts so they can resell them at insane prices.

I mean... seriously. Someone was asking for 25kk for a small house in Lavender Beds, this weekend.
On Balmung, that's 5 times the (full) price of a highest grade small house plot. Not counting the fact that the person then has to buy the house at its full price.

It's getting pretty ridiculous.