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  1. #11
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    SgtPepperUK's Avatar
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    Freya Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    No, not before they went free to play. Their cash shop was added as part of the F2P conversion. It didn't exist while the game was P2P. Cash shops don't belong in P2P games.
    Kind of. There was the Adventurer's Pack around the time the Mirkwood expansion released, not a cash shop item per se but I remember thinking at the time that they were testing the waters, seeing if people would pay for extras, was told to take the tinfoil hat off and then a few months later F2P came in and the cash shop.
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    Think about it, nobody wants to die, there's rules to this game son, I'm justified.

  2. #12
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Sage Lv 100
    I think for a P2P game, the cash shop should consist of services only (server transfer, name change, fantasia, etc). We are already paying for a game, the content itself should be available to obtain using in-game methods.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 03-31-2015 at 07:08 AM.

  3. #13
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't want FFXIV to be filled to the brim with references/armour/whatever from other Final Fantasy games? But as to your point, I'd rather they be in game from the Gold Saucer or from Veteran Rewards (wouldn't mind the odd extra mount on the cash shop). Guild Wars 2 doesn't have a subscription fee so they kinda do need to do that to make money.
    Glamours are just glamours. Most of players have probably played and loved all other FF games and it's this feeling of wearing iconic skins from other games remodeled with nice and new textures. It's a MMO after all, diversity is what brings the most to it, and since this franchise has a really long past of successful game series, people want to bring back memories from them while enjoying the content from current one. I would agree in other playable content. I mean, I would rather get new dungeons, raids and whatnot exclusive for this title, but glamours and stuff that we, players, can switch anytime and really often, won't hurt anyone and will make a lot of people happy, including SE.
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    Last edited by Edeline; 03-31-2015 at 07:04 AM.

  4. #14
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Excalibur
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    I like how the op asks SE to screw them out of money rather than ask in someway to reward players with said item. Fool and their money is so easily parted.

    As another poster said... breaks lore and is a rip... No thanks. Also just cause a failed MMO and a non subscription game does it, doesn't mean FFXIV has to.
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  5. #15
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    DO you know, that if you were to make *I don't know* outfits from other games, transmog weapons from other games. YOU would make a KILLING. Example

    Cloud buster sword
    Squall's gunblade
    Squall's outfit
    Clouds strife soldier outfit or just zach's outfit(Normal soldier outfit)

    And so on, Star wars the old republic is doing this and they make a killing people buying their outfits. Even guild wars 2 make tons of money of people buying gems just to buy outfits and transmogrify of weapons as well.

    FULLY EMBRACE IT, YOU WILL PULL MORE MONEY, everyone would be like

    Who wants all of that. Rydia outfit please.
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  6. #16
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    You're absolutely right, and it can goes even further.
    When I think about the flaws of FFXIV, or when other players talk about the flaws of the game, it's essentially stuff that are half-assed, trying to be interesting game design and at the same time existing just for the look, for the sake of fan-service (one example : Limit break).
    The best thing they could do is "split" FFXIV in two games : a true mmorpg FFXIV with a self-sufficient lore and solid game design, and a "Final Fantasy Land" online, full of fan-service, f2p, with an enormous cash-shop. Everyone wins.
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  7. #17
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    Yrys Silvarum
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    They must embrace it, I for one welcome our mog station overlords for any item we want in game.

    Edit: Cause we all know, they can't add everything based off as a event or achievement. Just doesn't pull money that way :P
    Also look at ESO, even they changed to this system and even Lord of the Rings did it before they went free to play :P
    I agree and I'd like to see this not bc I want to look like some FF chars but bc I'm just so damn desperate for rly cool looking glamour for my scholar ;_;
    At the end I may be not buying anything at all - but it would be nice to have more options. I kinda don't understand why there are so many ppl against purely cosmetic options for cash as if this would make the game p2w o_ô
    If I had the choice "never see that piece ingame ever or be able to buy it in the cash shop" it's obv what i would choose. But honestly I don't see such items coming in the near future
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    This is our future. Our story.

  8. #18
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    monochromicorn's Avatar
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Conjurer Lv 55
    The reason there is a sub is so that devs and companies have a constant source of income, and the reward for that is a lack of pay gates in anyway. The fact that they've implemented a cash shop and put items there only, unobtainable in any other way is a pay gate, not to mention insulting to the player base. Only reason I'm not against the shop completely is that it's all cosmetics
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  9. #19
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Pay to win? No thank you.

    Adding stuff in that conflicts with lore? no thank you.

    put the draft chocobo in cash shop? yes please

    Don't forget those games are free to play.
    Which part of what he suggested is pay to win? What are you winning? At most it is pay to make others envious.
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  10. #20
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    Which part of what he suggested is pay to win? What are you winning? At most it is pay to make others envious.
    What they have now is a gateway. There was already a person posting on here asking for a "ticket" to skip relic phases on alternate classes to the level of the highest stage relic in possession, or even paying to be able to switch one relic for another at the same stage. Starting the shop with cosmetic only is only going to bring more and more shop exclusives to the game, and eventually it won't all be cosmetic
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