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  1. #701
    Player Ahmbor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    ^ This. I can't tell you how many times I've come across really great artists to find out they've only been drawing for 1/8th the time I have, yet they're 30 times better :/
    It's actually kind of frustrating, especially when you see these people who go from crap to amazing in ~2 years, while you've been at it for about 16 years and aren't even half as good lol



    >_> Not going to lie, part of me wants to be all negative and tell people the truth that chances are, even with hard work, they'll never be extremely good. But apparently telling people the truth and hurting their feelings / crushing their dreams is frowned upon lol
    Listen to this woman!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luua View Post
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    And now you're judging me. Kudos. If you don't see a problem with responding to a "hard work pays off" post with "I never had to work for any of it," then there really is no point in me saying anything further. Your coy "oh, then I must be doing something wrong," was a little grating, I'll admit, but I suspect you knew that already and are now going to try to get back at me for pointing it out. If it's really not a contest to you, and not about making yourself look better than other people, don't quote or respond to this post. You've said what you need to already, right?

    Hard work is not the opposite of enjoyment, just a different way of looking at it. I worked my ass off to get where I am today as an artist, but I enjoyed it, and that's why I stuck with it. By many metrics my growth could be considered explosive and far beyond the norm, but I know exactly what I did to get there, and thus refuse to call it talent.
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  3. #703
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    Being a musician, I understand where Fenral is coming from. There always seems to be a division of hobby vs. career, hard work vs. "for fun", perseverance vs. a lack of resolve. In the end, I do agree that those who work hard for their craft generally is offended when someone with natural talent takes either their skills lightly or have a total misunderstanding of how difficult their work actually is. Reading back, I can see why your post comes off that way, Luua, whether you meant it or not.

    Hopefully you two see eye to eye, this is all silly to an extent :s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    And now you're judging me.
    I'm sorry if I made you upset with my comment that was not my intention, but after all this talking about how much
    work it is to improve and this technical stuff I just thought to share my thought on this-
    If ppl feel offended by this I'm very sorry! I'm the last person who want to discourage someone or
    tell them how to do their thing :/
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    What happen to this thread now , It suppose to be where we share our work drawing painting and stuff.
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    Sorry for my english
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    Here's a quick sketch I did of an old character I used to have
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    Finally worked up the courage to post what started out as a simple project but then got a quite bit more detailed than I had planned to do from the start. My NIN roe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Finally worked up the courage to post what started out as a simple project but then got a quite bit more detailed than I had planned to do from the start. My NIN roe!

    I love it xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Finally worked up the courage to post what started out as a simple project but then got a quite bit more detailed than I had planned to do from the start. My NIN roe!

    this is the best pic XD,

    the fun thing is even if you can draw a stickman to a mona lisa, everyone can draw as long as your happy drawing the picture will be fun
    hell if you ever feel like you cannot draw look at 'modern art' a simple square can be worth millions to someone
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    Sometimes you just got to have Some fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Finally worked up the courage to post what started out as a simple project but then got a quite bit more detailed than I had planned to do from the start. My NIN roe!

    this is the best pic XD,

    the fun thing is even if you can draw a stickman to a mona lisa, everyone can draw as long as your happy drawing the picture will be fun
    hell if you ever feel like you cannot draw look at 'modern art' a simple square can be worth millions to someone
    u tryin' to say I cant draw?

    CUZ TAHTS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE
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    Last edited by Fuma; 03-24-2015 at 03:35 AM.

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