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  1. #11
    Player
    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    People asked for, requested and demanded we get %s and, look, they gave it to us. And we were happy. Happy because we had a metric with which to know when to go nuts on the bosses and when not. It's also a small, easy to read number. The full value of their HP, though, would not improve a thing. We'd be back to guessing how much HP they had and when the next phase started unless someone was willing to do the math whenever they weren't 'jumpin an shootin'. We don't need more numbers, we need better players. People willing to put the blame stick down when there's a wipe, dust themselves off and try again! Seriously... one wipe and invariably someone's pointing fingers and naming names like their shyte don't stink...
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  2. #12
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    SalMag's Avatar
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    Rahko Surma
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    That wipe was just an example not like it hasn't happened before but it's just something I'd like to see implemented, like the percentage it's a toggle on/off option but yeah I mean in FFXIII Barthandelus had more than, what was it? 3 million HP yeah it's a big number but at least you could see you were making progress and it's just something I'm used to seeing in RPGs so I made a suggestion.
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  3. #13
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    Lethallin's Avatar
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    Lethallin Ari
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 62
    Yeah, not really sure how seeing the exact numbers would matter. It's not like seeing the bosses HP at 8959/92000 is more useful then seeing 9%, or how it would somehow make the LB you talked about deal more damage.
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  4. #14
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    There really is no point to to changing this. At all...every hit makes progress, and if you're farming a Primal you should already know how much an lb does.
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  5. #15
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    SekhmetM's Avatar
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    Sekhmet Mubarak
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    I don't see how this would be useful.

    Nobody knows the system in which this game generates damage numbers, so knowing the exact amount of hits needed to kill a monster is pointless.

    Percent is enough.
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  6. #16
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    Meklore's Avatar
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    Acrophes Lockehart
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TurboSol View Post
    (imitation old man voice)

    son, back in my day, we didn't even see what % health was at, all we had was a health bar.... up hill both ways, through the snow
    barefoot
    & I am an old man, lol
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  7. #17
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Pretty sure you can do this already as others have stated, I actually changed mine to show percentages because it was more useful to me. But to each their own.
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  8. #18
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    For those saying it would be a useless number, no, I don't think it'd be useless. If it's important to deal 30k hp damage for some reason (to push a phase, or kill a boss, or whatever), the percentage isn't going to help you much. Can we do without it? Sure. We already do. Would it be helpful to have? Of course. Heck, even percentages are a luxury; don't need 'em, can eyeball the rough percentage easily enough even with it turned off.

    Knowing SE, though, I think it's far more likely that future NMs will go in the opposite direction: COMPLETELY HIDE the HP bar, so you don't even know what percent you're at. This fad was all the rage in FFXI for a while. (Dammit, SE!)
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  9. #19
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SalMag View Post
    I mean y'know there's no way of telling how much they have HP you use the LB and the boss doesn't even flinch.

    My point was you'd know when to save it or use it etc, etc.
    I know this is a crazy idea, but how about using it when it'll do the most good? Far too often I see people wasting (yes, wasting) the limit break by sitting on it like a mother hen until the boss is next to death. The irony is, had that same DPS used it two minutes ago, we'd have already killed the boss by then.

    It does the same amount of damage at the end of its life that it does during its life. Just fire the darned thing when it's good and ready and if you're lucky you might even get to use a second limit break before the fight is over.
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  10. #20
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    AlexionSkylark's Avatar
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    Alexion Skylark
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Yeah, cuz it would be wonderful to give the min-maxers the tools they need to calculate EXACTLY how much DPS you need to do on a boss to push a phase or whatever.

    "OK, so, we know for a fact that Titan's Heart has 25.000 HP, and it takes 30 secs to blow. SO, we need 25000 / 30 = 833,333 (repeating, of course) a steady ~840 DPS to be able to break it. Dividing that for 5 DPS, counting the 2 tanks = 1 DPS... 168. Now, I'm looking here at my ToS-breaking parser that tells me exactly how much DPS each of you lazy asses are doing, and I'm seeing that the BRD is pulling only 140 DPS.

    So, I'm kicking BRD off the party for reasons of YOU SUCK. ktkxbye"

    Another alternative is... "So, I'm seeing here that this party's DPS sucks and This is a waste of my time. So long, suckers." *warps away*
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 03-10-2015 at 05:59 AM.

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