Warrior Parry - yay or nay.

[Gaza]

@SpookyGhost I agree with most of what you say, i just think that while learning a fight tanks should not be too concerned about there dps until the entire party has the mechanics down, at which point unless the group is under geared or the dps are slacking you should be clearing it. I guess the point I was trying to make was by the time det and crit become more useful to a tank than parry you'll more than likely have the fight down anyway.

To be fair though my group did decide to try and push four bennu in turn 12 when we were still trying to clear it to make the fight alot easier and we did everything we could to maximise our dps. Crit and det would have been more useful at the time sure, but even then I imagine it would have been insignificant next to the other changes we made. And we only made those changes after we were comfortable with the mechanics of the first 2 phases, had I gone full dps build from the start it would have likely led to alot of unnecessary wipes.

To me anyone who says you should prioritise dps as a tank to anyone who is new to an encounter is giving out bad advice.

I feel like I've gone off track a little bit here, while I gave an example of where I think parry is slightly better I still wouldn't recommend it. At the end of the day I agree with you that secondary stats for the most part are just not worth being concerned about for most ppl.

[MythToken]

I agree with Gaza.

People who need to min/max all the info is out there, det/crit all the way.

Everyone else, just get the best gear you can, and don't stack parry/ss. It's better to have a mix of stats.

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[Janembo]

Bottom line the more str the more midigated with parry.

Nay on parry stacking.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Yay On Parry Stacking \o/

what? o-o

[matt8107t]

Nay on parry for tanks. Strength builds have many perks and doesn't really change the way you play at all. I switched to strength and set build while we were working on t10 and it didn't change anything negatively to drop the parry but my DPS and aggro improved greatly.

[Janembo]

Nay on parry for tanks. Strength builds have many perks and doesn't really change the way you play at all. I switched to strength and set build while we were working on t10 and it didn't change anything negatively to drop the parry but my DPS and aggro improved greatly.

An lemme guess u mitigated more when you parried!
Full vit parry 600+ 24-27%mitigated
Full Str Crit an SS for 9zerk 30%+ mitigated plus blood bath and second wind have greater returns.

Ps this is for Warrior's who love there class an kno the in's an outs.
Just starting out more vit accessories with any stat other then parry.

Pss do the true paladins say nay to Parry cuz it not my class but they got block that is reliable.

[SlyRoyale]

Pss do the true paladins say nay to Parry cuz it not my class but they got block that is reliable.

Block is a big reason why parry is a bad stat for PLDs, too. But yeah, STR definitely has greater returns for WAR self-healing. I've had Second Winds that crit up to 1.8k, average around 1.7k Inner Beast crits, and man is it ever fun to see those big numbers! Although, this is usually with full STR accessories and a build optimized around dealing high damage while still being tough despite lower HP and parry.

[PetiteMalFleur]

My old tank swore by parry and stacked it. He quit and I took a war tank with less hp who swore by his dps build; he was just as easy to heal. Our new war was our MT for all SCoB, did more dps and had less threat issues using the same rotation as our previous tank.

Parry is indeed useless, even in progression, and once your reach a certain threshold VIT is too.

[matt8107t]

I main pld and still believe in all str det builds. With enough str once you out gear content you can tank in sword oath and use CDs to mitigate and still have aggro.

[SirTaint]

That's WARs huge advantage. They can build hate during their opener with Unchained and lose next to no DPS.

PLDs are stuck in shield oath for at least one combo to establish hate then its back to sword oath. (depending on the fight)


Parry is terrible and always will be. The base amount is plenty for every encounter in the game.