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  1. #1
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90

    Items: Materia Adjustments

    Please adjust the materia system or add a guaranteed method of acquiring specific materia.

    Point: It's 450,000gil for a single Tier IV Det. materia on my server, Crit. is upwards of 350,000g and Accuracy is easily pushing 200,000g and they've been very steady at this rate.

    If we're going require players to re-infuse scrolls any time they need/want to adjust stats on their Relic or Zodiac I think it would be best to ease the method of materia acquisition either through a weekly repeatable quest that rewards the player with a single Tier IV of their choice or drastically raise the rate/chance of obtaining Tier IV materia from spirit bound conversions.

    Additionally there is the Elemental variety of materia that is practically unused in-game and a hold over from v.1.23 - will these be phased out or given a more in-depth use at some point?
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    Volta Asura
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Please god no....just no.

    You don't have to buy materia if you don't want to. You can use that "unused" elemental materia and meld it onto gear and spiritbond it - to make your own materia.

    Nowadays, it doesn't take too long to spiritbond gear, and you could potentially make a lot of gil in the process.

    Tips:
    -The more materia you have melded onto an item, the faster it spiritbonds.
    -HQ items spiritbond faster than NQ.
    -There are quite a lot of items in game that offer a "+spiritbond gain" stat that can help too. EX. -Meteor survivor ring.
    -Also, spiritbond potions can now be purchased on the MB and are pretty cheap.
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    Last edited by VoltaAsura; 03-06-2015 at 12:03 PM.

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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I think a better solution would be to rebalance secondary stats so that Det/Crit and to an extent Accuracy aren't the only viable stats to invest in. Drop the elemental materia that serves no purpose other than being garbage items.

    Those prices are as high as they are because everyone is buying them. Take a look at Quickarm materia some time.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    ilvl90 gear gives you TIV at about a 75% rate, is very cheap to make, and spiritbonds quick in the right dungeons.
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    ilvl90 gear gives you TIV at about a 75% rate, is very cheap to make, and spiritbonds quick in the right dungeons.
    ilvl70 is about as cheap with a 50%. If you go Gryphonskin you can make an entire left/right for peanuts because of desynthing tanking Hard Hippo prices. It's pretty consistent money flow, but I still think it'd be worth them balancing stats out so the demand for other stats increases to compete with Det/Crit. It's just kind of a joke at the moment for secondary stats in terms of customization.
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    Character
    Pippi Longstocking
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    So.. spiritbond your own and sell them at the evidently exorbitant prices you listed them at.. There's no barrier to spiritbonding other than to have a level 50 combat class, so why not be on the seller side of things and take advantage of the prices?

    Btw, on Jenova, Savage Aim/Might are 600k+ sometimes over 800k when somebody decides to buy them up due to overmelding.
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It's mostly a community issue. ilvl 70 and ilvl 90 (and ilvl 110 if you're nuts) offer much higher rates for tier IV materia. Unfortunately the only place in the entire game you can spiritbond at is Urth's Fount, hence the abundance of tier III and rarely tier IV.
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    It's mostly a community issue. ilvl 70 and ilvl 90 (and ilvl 110 if you're nuts) offer much higher rates for tier IV materia. Unfortunately the only place in the entire game you can spiritbond at is Urth's Fount, hence the abundance of tier III and rarely tier IV.
    I most solo queue instances for spirit binding and the stigma of SBing in DF is pretty dumb. People have this asinine mentality that you need to form a spirit bonding party for instances because being in ilvl gear appropriate for the instance is just wasting everyone's time....
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    I most solo queue instances for spirit binding and the stigma of SBing in DF is pretty dumb. People have this asinine mentality that you need to form a spirit bonding party for instances because being in ilvl gear appropriate for the instance is just wasting everyone's time....
    Basically. The reason materia is so rare is because although the system was designed such that you can earn materia while doing other things, the community HATES when people do this. If you spiritbond, it has to be SOLELY for the purposes of spiritbonding. And frequently in Urth's Fount only.
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    Silas Henry
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    Malboro
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    Bard Lv 90
    There's stigma because a lot of people go into dungeons wearing full sets of SB gear that may be "ilevel appropriate" but certainly isn't optimal and sometimes isn't even helpful. Those people aren't pulling their weight.
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