Sick of unjust vote dismisses

[ZephyrK]

If everywhere you go, you smell poop, it may just be on you.

That's a funny way of saying that vote kick isn't the problem you describe. Change how you interact with other people instead of attempting to change the system.

[Bluevann]

You know. I've only been vote-kicked once in all the time I've played. It was back in the day when I leveled my first tank to 50. I was gearing up and admittedly uncomfortable in the role(PLD). I went in AK for the relic quest; at that point in time the best weapon I had was ilv70. I got paired with a BLM decked out in all BIS and had issues keeping aggro off him. He swore his face off at me. First time I saw someone rage so hard, tbh. I said sorry and explained myself. Right before the last boss he laughed at me and then I was vote kicked. /shrug

But I would rather come across people like that BLM and get voted kicked then not have a vote kick at all. I remember when there was no vote kick. It was TERRIBLE.

Agreed, I had a similar story. Was testing my Scholar in Aurum Vale.The tank decided he wanted to pull the whole room at once, without really asking me if I was comfortable with it. We wiped twice, and then I was kicked because I couldn't handle it or whatever.

Ironically, I re-queued immediately and ended up in the same run with the same group. Asked what I was kicked for, answer was "offline" which obviously was bullshit, but whatever, I decided to move on and didn't say anything. Nobody spoke for the rest of the run, but the end of the story is that we smoothly got through the rest of the dungeons without any wipe, and I was rewarded with 3/3 commendations.

Kick abuse is definitely there, but to show people you deserve better than that you only need to be mature and respect if you want to be respected. This is why I think Vote Kick should stay, as well as that kicked people should be able to re-enter the duties their kicked from. Just like I did, people can and should have chances to prove they're better than what people think. But you of course MUST be better than what people think.

[Charisma]

A. Not talking or replying to idle chit chat within the party. There are days where i don't feel like chatting in a DF.
D. Having the minimum entry requirements to a Duty. This was when i first started playing 2.0. This was not a PF party. Maiden run through relic reborn quest trials. "kick that smn" "what? why?" "your gear sucks" "you have been dismissed from duty"
E. watching cutscenes, without being prompt to skip cutscenes. This was during my maiden run through praetorium.
I. Not pulling multiple groups at a time when playing as the tank. Non-speed run.
J. Pulling multiple groups at a time when playing as the Tank. Speed Run.
L. Not adding dps as a healer.
M. Adding dps as a healer.
N. Not using cleric stance when adding dps as a healer. level sync duty. Only had 2 slots as a sch for additional skills/spells. I chose protect and presence of mind.
O. Spamming aoe heal's during during Garuda HM as to attract the sister aggro, solo heal 3 runs in no deaths. under 3 minute clears. Must have hurt the 2nd tank's pride, even though i stated "OT focus garuda plz"
Q. As a BLM, using varying Thunder I, II, III, to suit the moment. "Why aren't you using Thunder III all the time?" thats like asking why arent you using fire III all the time?

I picked the things i do more or less and even after having every class, except monk, leveled to 50, i never got votekicked so far.
but thats probly because im keeping "critism" to myself, since im not going to see this players ever again.
Im not sure how you get kicked that often, but i guess its because, the reasons stated above were not the only reasons.

Im pretty sure most people get kicked because they are being jerks, while they are not THAT good.

[Ashkendor]

N. Not using cleric stance when adding dps as a healer. level sync duty. Only had 2 slots as a sch for additional skills/spells. I chose protect and presence of mind.

Are you sure you chose PoM? That's a WHM skill from the level 30 job quest if I remember correctly.

[Chevrefoil]

Presence of Mind is a WHM only skill -- perhaps you were thinking swiftcast?

In any case, most of the abusive kicks are because people are jerks. They don't understand that when you enter into DF, you have to deal with the group you are getting. You might have a new player who wants to watch cut scenes or doesn't know the dungeon tactics. You might have a new tank and need to hold back your aggro if you're geared. The responsibility of that is all on -you- as a player and if you'd rather kick someone than be a pleasant citizen in Eorzea, then

My personal opinion that if SE doesn't enforce abusive kicks, then each time you initiate a kick, you should incur a penalty -- whether the kick was legitimate or not. That penalty adds a timer onto when you can next kick someone in a dungeon and increases with each penalty incurred, so eventually, someone who repeatedly kicks will never be able to kick. That timer would decrease over time as long as you don't kick people.

[Valoiz]

I love to vote dissmiss ppl being rude/pulling dps/ pushing everyone before the last boss... specially in WoD, if ur hurry: DONT play, go and take care of ur stuff and play later. KICK Leroyyyyyyyyy!

[seraf]

I've been playing this since the beginning and I've never been vote kicked before. As long as you do your job and don't troll or do stupid stuff and refuse to listen to advice you should be fine.

[MageBlack]

I was in a duo party with my son I was DPS. Phone rang, I said sec then went and answered the phone. I was 2min:09sec according tot he call display. I came back and the other two players vote dismissed me and my son was out voted (4man dungeon). It was the only time I have ever been vote kicked. I was walking him through how to tank and we were in Tam-Tara. Then they got on his case cause he was standing there, unsure of what to do, so I used my keyboard to type "well you booted my partner, I'm out!" then he ditched so we could re-queue.

Would that be considered an unjust vote dismiss?

[Inuk9]

I was never kicked from DF party. You are doing something really wrong to people kick you. I saw a lot of wrong things in those dungeons runs, but none of them were enough to kick somebody from the pary. You should revise your playstyle.

[Aerowaffle]

I have never been kicked from a party, but I don't doubt that it's possible to be kicked unfairly.

Just as it's possible to have a troll in the group that needs to be kicked out, it's possible for a group of people to collectively troll someone by kicking them for illegitimate reasons.

But it's unavoidable. Changing the system to somehow prevent people from being troll kicked, would also serve in making it harder to dismiss someone that needs to be removed from the group because of attitude, skill level, or afk.