Sick of unjust vote dismisses

[Elim]

You know. I've only been vote-kicked once in all the time I've played. It was back in the day when I leveled my first tank to 50. I was gearing up and admittedly uncomfortable in the role(PLD). I went in AK for the relic quest; at that point in time the best weapon I had was ilv70. I got paired with a BLM decked out in all BIS and had issues keeping aggro off him. He swore his face off at me. First time I saw someone rage so hard, tbh. I said sorry and explained myself. Right before the last boss he laughed at me and then I was vote kicked. /shrug

But I would rather come across people like that BLM and get voted kicked then not have a vote kick at all. I remember when there was no vote kick. It was TERRIBLE.

[Alex_Lenderson]

Never gotten kicked form a dungeon. Never.

I really think the problem is you. Either you play extremely poor or you do some pretty rude things. IE with chat and/or going afk for periods of time without letting anyone know.

[Adire]

Can't speak for the OP, but I'll state it again, I've never done anything wrong when I've been kicked.

Unless complaining to the CNJ in Halatali who was provoking mobs off me, or trying to prevent the healer in DD from being kicked because he wanted to complete the dungeon is wrong. I'm not a poor player either. And no. I did not do anything to warrant either action against me. When I joined the Halatali, he immediately started provoking. I dealt with it for at least half the time I was there without saying anything, hoping he'd stop on his own actually. Maybe that's why their first tank was mysteriously gone...dared to speak up against their griefing and paid for it.

Don't see anything wrong that Kaedrian did in their long list of reasons they've been kicked either.

If 2 people are in a premade and a disagreement or situation happens that they think you should be kicked for, you're going to be kicked regardless of whether or not you're right or wrong, and kicked without a majority vote at that. This is a problem.

[nuyu11]

Is there any "Warning" vote first before kick?

Party member can vote warning for some reason to you, then you know why they're mad or feel uneasy.
If still happen then Vote Kick can be trigger based on previous warning reason or that player can leave the instance because they know they caused the trouble.

[Xeonerable]

I don't really see people kicking for unjust reasons, nor do I really ever get kicked myself. (tbh I don't think I have)

However I do have a tendency to avoid duty finder in general as it always makes me die a little inside. So that is probably why I don't see it often. 8)

[Buckles]

I got kicked the other day >for the first time ever, in any game< in WP Hard because apparently I was tunneling the boss (not killing spears fast enough) --which is such garbage because I'd shoulder tackle over to spears off cool down and generally do all the mechanics as I always do.

Now the reason for the kick I assumed was because the spears did get out of hand and we started taking party-wide damage - at which time I popped Mantra REACTING to mechanics by offering extra healing potential - and still got called tunneling. The kicker - we STILL KILLED the boss, and I was kicked after the tank taunted me in /party by saying "Bye MNK. Don't need tunneling noobs in here"

So yes, what people say about party finder V2K being abused is completely true now that I've experienced it first hand. I reported the tank who abused this mechanic on me and hope that whatever GM handled the case saw that it was abused and at least spoke with him about why what he did was wrong.

But man I was pissed to be kicked from a boss I actively engaged in mechanically, when things went south and who we untimately killed-- none of which warrants a V2K.

[gamersince1976]

''Because right now it sounds like your wrecking yourself. ''
Ironic statement. Either you've not quite played as much as you would like to think, or you have been kicked quite a lot.
Then again, perhaps its the third option, considering your usage of the phrase ''wreck'':
*You are part of the problem, that's kicking others for no reason.

OK... apparently that reference was too obscure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCY9L3Xidoo

Ice Cube
"Check Yourself"

[Sapphic]

As an addition to my previous reply.

Been here since beta, never got kicked and done too many dugeons to count XD I always find it suspect when someone is getting kicked enough from DF to justify making a forum post about it. If it seems that everyone else around is a jerk, then maybe it's you, not them. (Theres a phrase about that which I totally don't remember but I assume everyone gets the idea XD )

That you know of. Of course he's lying and cherry picking. You think he's going to tell you the part he kept at it for a solid 5 minutes swearing blindly? Or the part he went AFK until the dungeon went his way?

You have no way of knowing what goes on in that dungeon. And I'll tell you something. This wasn't a one-off with him. It's consistent. Is the problem the rest of the world or is it him?

Think on that one.

Quoted that as seems a few ignored/didn't see it. Sounds like you have personal experience of dealing with the OP in dungeons ^_^

[MeiUshu]

@Chevrefoil

It is NOT a bannable offence, since long, SE has said that vote kick is a matter between people and they dont want to mix into it UNLESS the kick happen when loot was not yet distributed, anything outside of it is none of their concern. I know it because I have been both on the victim side and the one that reported the abuses on third parties.


This conversation cant have a winner. People only see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe, asking them to believe something that either they have never experienced, or is outside of the frame of what they were told it can only be or because is cool to be in a party of friends to kick an outsider so to let another friend/FC member come into it, I have been in that situation I vote no, the guy was kicked, another healer came in from the FC I was into, I left both the party and the FC..to me is just unconceivable and wrong...but if you ask those that do so, is perfectly ok since they have no repercussions, understand sanctions, for misusing the tool. The perception of right and wrong differs depending on your background as well, we remain humans well technically, because when I see how people treat each other in this game I stopped believing humans are actually playing the game, but is more like animals.

Abuse in vote kick happens often, very often, denying this is totally silly as silly as saying that it is ALWAYS the fault of the one being kicked rather then the others initiating it, knowing that often then not you have the following happening

a) one person wants to kick the guy for his own reasons right or wrong doesnt matter
b) some agree
c) those that dont agree, still will vote yes, to not be the black sheep that refused the kick and forced the party to remain with that person
d) member of the same group even if they think no, they will press yes, you know solidarity
e) fear to be the next to be kicked, so better another then me..and they vote yes

maybe some of you recognize themselves into this list

Mei

[Chevrefoil]

Then why does it say vote kick for none of the above reasons (AFK/Offline/etc) can be a bannable offense in the pop up? Seems to me like they should take it out then. I thought it was being enforced and I'm sorry it's not.