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  1. #4971
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    siverstorm's Avatar
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    Vivian Grimelka
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    They need to appeal to both masses. Raiders and non-raiders. So they will try to make the gear sit on equal grounds. If they don't give non-raiders their own way to get a high ilvl weapon then it craps on the non-raiders (even if you literally don't need anything better than 110 to do non-raid content, but that's besides the point).

    I thought last tier was done well, the 115 relics came out near the end of the second coil lifecycle.
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  2. #4972
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    Dunncan Pendragon
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    Thank you for all the advise! I think that I was not clear enough (english is my second language >.<) so, yes, I'm poor, but I don't have a problem to grind all that gil to get the best relic around. I just don't want to do it, get a full det/crit Longinus and end up needind to respec because, I don't know, new gear lack accuracy :P. That is why I wanted to see what you guys were expecting for the upcoming patch, to help me guide my decision.

    As I fell like I can always get accuracy (or SS) by other means, such gear and food, I think I canot make a mistake when I go for full det/crit. Thanks for all the help!!

    About all the speculations, I don't really think that relic will be better then DW, at least before expansion. My thought is that, once the exp hits, it'll be upgradable and get better then DW, and I remember having heard ppl say that, for the ones who make all the way to Zodiac, it'll be easier to upgrade the next steps, plus they'll offer some sort of shortcut for those whithout the Zodiac.

    And I got lucky with DW Spear, came in my second t13 kill. But I can say that if I was to get stuck with all that Ironworks acc for so long, I would be really mad, and that's why I plan to have my relic before next raid content.
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  3. #4973
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    If you're broke, the best way to optimise your relic is to get 19 SS on Novus, then throw everything into CRT/DET. 21 Accuracy at Zodiac Stage (and if it's i135, 23 acc), with gear optimisation, will guarantee you being 2 DPS higher than Dreadwyrm Spear, but 1-2 DPS less than a Max DET/CRT Zodiac. You also get to use Black Truffles for BiS, instead of Flints ^^

    I went 19 Accuracy, 31 CRT, 25 DET at Novus, it's now 21 Acc, 34 CRT, 28 DET at Zodiac.

    Took me so long to min/max this thing .-. because stat increases from Novus -> Zodiac change, depending on the stat melds on the sphere scroll (EG: 23~ DET get's a +2 Boost, but 25 get's a +3 boost, or something like that).

    There's probably a better CRT/DET layout than what I did, but it's the best I could do.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 02-18-2015 at 04:11 AM.

  4. #4974
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    for the people who already have t13 clears and their wep, i135 relic isn't really relevant or needed. they already cleared the most difficult content (that relies on ilvl tuning); 1%-2% extra dps doesn't matter. some people might get salty because i135 relic is better than their t13 dread weps, but the whole time>skill thing is only relevant if you actually need the weapon for progression, which isn't the case in 2.51 catchup patch, so it's basically getting upset over a small number difference in content they have on farm already

    for the people who don't have all of fcob cleared, the relic is just part of the general idea to help people finish fcob (twines/coats from hunts, wod, etc) and also for the people who have bad luck with t13 weapon drops. it'll be basically 3 months since fcob released, so i don't think its a too early for i135 relics, especially since expansion is soon, and the devs seem intent on having people clear the content earlier and enjoy farming/using their gear, instead of really late to only have its rewards invalidated by 3.0
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 02-18-2015 at 04:30 AM.

  5. #4975
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    Yan Dere
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    please mother of god can I get a dreadwyrm spear so I dont have to do my relic

    i don't even have any atmas

    tomorrows the day boys i'm feeling it
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  6. #4976
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    Try cursing the twelve right before opening the chest this week.
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  7. #4977
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    please mother of god can I get a dreadwyrm spear so I dont have to do my relic

    i don't even have any atmas

    tomorrows the day boys i'm feeling it
    Yo, you been feeling something, but its not a spear.

    If it is, well... good luck sir.
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  8. #4978
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    Sunny Hirose
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    I hear the Lalafell sacrifice is a popular strategy....
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  9. #4979
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    Aisu Strong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    I hear the Lalafell sacrifice is a popular strategy....
    mi'qote for results
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    I hear the Lalafell sacrifice is a popular strategy....
    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    mi'qote for results
    Compromise: Sacrifice both.
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