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  1. #11
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    It's really hard to nerf this fight the way you want. Everything comes at set tumes; you need to figure out when you need to move to compensate for your lag. Everyone has to do it; some people are just better at compensating than others. It's also really good practice for blackfire in t12...

    Besides, solo tank and solo heal titan exs are fun; I actually have to work when tanking...
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  2. #12
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    Jet'a Vahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    It's really hard to nerf this fight the way you want.
    I didn't really specific "how" I want them to nerf. Personally I was thinking just to make the AoE attacks 1 second slower to cast.
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  3. #13
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I didn't really specific "how" I want them to nerf. Personally I was thinking just to make the AoE attacks 1 second slower to cast.
    Even that will change the fight drastically. If they were cerberus's tail slap cast time, I'll agree, but titans attacks are I feel the "standard" cast time. The fact that it's so exact in when they're cast means anticipation and pre dodging is extremely easy.

    Edit: also, my Internet is pretty bad (no one knows how I can play anything online). And I cleared the fight on ps3 many times, so I do know the lag. You have to adapt to it
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Even that will change the fight drastically. If they were cerberus's tail slap cast time, I'll agree, but titans attacks are I feel the "standard" cast time. The fact that it's so exact in when they're cast means anticipation and pre dodging is extremely easy.

    Edit: also, my Internet is pretty bad (no one knows how I can play anything online). And I cleared the fight on ps3 many times, so I do know the lag. You have to adapt to it
    You're right, I need to adapt and I still am trying to (as much as I do not think a game should be built around having to lose a fight 50 times before it can be won); I suppose I would be more encouraged if I didn't get all the negative reactions from my team mates every time it happens (or happens to someone else). Of course it's impossible to change the community, so perhaps I wondered if the solution would be to adjust the content so that there'll be less insults flying on a regular basis?
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethallin View Post
    I've somewhat recently done a Titan EX where a DPS died before the heart phase by falling off, and another fell off after heart phase and we still managed to beat it.
    Actually that was the same experience for me last time I saw a success. Essentially cleared with only 2 DPS, so there is some room for error. But that only works when other people are strong enough to compensate and break the gaols in time. It will keep getting easier to compensate for more mistakes unless an item level sync is introduced.
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  6. #16
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Besides, solo tank and solo heal titan exs are fun; I actually have to work when tanking...

    We did a 4man titan ex over the weekend, it was super fun!

    Got it with 10% echo but this weekend we're gonna try again without the echo. We would have done it with 5% echo but our tank ate a landslide.....and he didn't even touch the adds. I tanked one, DRG tanked other, and WHM Cure 3 FTW!
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  7. #17
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    While connection lag is one source of problems for people, there's one thing people should keep in mind if they play on TV (HD or UHD)... Input lag.
    I was looking at a nice UHD TV the other day... And was considering buying it... Until I learned that the input lag on it was as high as 120ms.
    Input lag in this case being the time between the TV receives a frame and the TV actually displays the frame.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    You're right, I need to adapt and I still am trying to (as much as I do not think a game should be built around having to lose a fight 50 times before it can be won); I suppose I would be more encouraged if I didn't get all the negative reactions from my team mates every time it happens (or happens to someone else). Of course it's impossible to change the community, so perhaps I wondered if the solution would be to adjust the content so that there'll be less insults flying on a regular basis?
    You bring up good issues. As a matter of principle, yes, I do not think fights should depend so much on latency, and the community problems you mention...

    It's not fair to hold those with laggy connections to the much higher standard of having to anticipate everything a half second or so earlier, where 1 mistake=death... but as a pragmatic matter, it's the way to get the fight done. Now for hurling insults... How is your FC? A good FC (or even LSs!) will be a lot more civil than DF groups. The hard part can just be finding those people. If you're not in an FC or don't have particular ties to your current one... I recommend trying to find one that focuses on helping people.

    This is a little bit tricky as many will claim to do this, but far fewer actually act on it. Still, it really changes the game experience; I think it's a worthwhile search.
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  9. #19
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    Trianna Nox
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    Download and use Pingzapper or WTfast, both of these will remove the latency issues your having. I have friends who play from new zealand, Australia and other countries, before using them they had tons of issues, now with these programs, they dodge like the rest of us.

    If these don't work for you, i have some bad news, you simply can not dodge
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  10. #20
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Just tried it yesterday for the very first time!

    500+ Ping with WTFast! WOOO~♪

    My advice, dont try it with a 2MB downstream connection while someone is watching netflix :¬|
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