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  1. #51
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    they probably wanted a scion b/c they spend the most time telling you what to do aaand when we look at scions

    y'da and papalymo were probably out because of prishe/shantootles.

    Thancred kind of bumbles for 50 levels and has an ill defined fighting style up till late in the storyline.

    generic hyur from the trailers is supposed to be a stand in for -you- and while they could do a neat thing with a character that switches classes with him this is kind of bartz's gimmick already. If they were going to go with this htey probably would have done that for XI

    Y'shtola is kind of a robot but she....kind of fits i guess..idk..there's better -probably- better choices.

    now they do tend to pick a hero and a villain from each game so lets hope gaius is there because that would be SICK
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    Should have been Hildebrand...
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    It should have been Godbert!! because God :U!!!

    well, Y'shtola can Wack some sence on the Warrior of Light there too...
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Actually, that's not quite true - in the original Dissidia each FF game from FFI through to X featured the main protagonist and antagonist from each, with only one character from FFXI and XII as secret characters



    Is there actually any conclusive proof that this is truly an arcade game? .
    First point: From what I understand, FFXII was still late in development when the first Dissidia hit, so they didn't have time to add heroes. FFXII heroes also kinda suffered from a "genericness" factor due to the way leveling worked. It does have the reputation for the most bland protagonist in the entire series, after all.
    FFXI has a similar issue, except that most of the villains aren't really all that iconic to the game itself, and due to expansions there's always a new set of villains. XIV was able to sidestep this issue and many others by building a core ensemble cast from the beginning and having the two major (non-beast tribe) villain factions actually look like huge insurmountable threats at the time. The fact that there actually IS debate as to who should get into the game says a lot about how many different characters there are of significance to the story.
    Shantotto was a natural choice for XI's representative since she's there from the beginning AND has a content update built around her. Plus she's got a gimmick that translates well to crossovers.

    Second point: The trailer has the word "Arcade" pop up in pretty much every single one of the on-screen plugs.
    As for why an arcade, well, Arcade games are still very popular and profitable in Japan. Arcade fighting games are actually very similar to those old Neo Geo games: One arcade unit can have half a dozen or more games on it for players to choose from. Thus, they're basically designed for a console that costs about ¥100 a try, has a high chance of the player losing and trying again, doesn't have the extra feature requirements of console games, and doesn't have as many arcade units and thus they don't have to spend as much money producing units for the arcades.
    It was a mentality America never really grasped, instead insisting on a one-game-per-box mentality for every game except neo geo ones.
    And you'll note that the arcades that ARE still around usually consist of at least one neo geo machine :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    It should have been Godbert!! because God :U!!!
    He'd be too overpowered
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    This is one bad choice.
    Why? ONLY because she's a WHM and they only have 3 skills. Original as it may be it's just we lack skills in this game for her
    to be Dissidia tier.
    As seen on video, she used Aero and Holy and barely had any screen time expect getting wrecked.
    The Limit Break ... I don't even know what they'll do.

    There are no good representatives in this game otherwise.
    Yda and Papalymo are Tifa and Terra in the game.
    Can't add Uriagner - Yuna?
    Minifilia - I have no idea what her job is...I guess boobs.
    Thancred - They said he was a bard...with a paladin knife, with NIN like reflexes so I dunno. He's generic.


    Edit: She casts Blizzard and Fluid Aura too. I never saw her as a mascot of this game either.
    Other options would give us a small character customization of the adventurers since we're the main shabang here.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 02-15-2015 at 04:34 AM. Reason: Added.

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    Y'shtola is rather boring but so are most of the good guys in FF14. The scions in particular are just incredibly dull. The gc leaders are decent I guess.. Actually I do agree Godbert would have been awesome. I guess maybe that was a bit too stupid and silly for the ff14 rep, but I'd have enjoyed that a lot more than Y'shtola.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    This is one bad choice.
    Why? ONLY because she's a WHM and they only have 3 skills. Original as it may be it's just we lack skills in this game for her
    to be Dissidia tier.
    As seen on video, she used Aero and Holy and barely had any screen time expect getting wrecked.
    The Limit Break ... I don't even know what they'll do.

    There are no good representatives in this game otherwise.
    In the video she uses at least one instance of an ice attack that resembles Blizzard III. She'll probably be pulling skills from all 3 DoMs.
    Plus unlike a lot of the other character's in XIV, she actually has a flashy signature attack (well, defense, but i can be used offensively). The only other characters with signature attacks that aren't villains are from the hildibrand storyline.
    In the video we see her use Blizzard III, in game her signature is a variation of sacred soil+Protect (that she apparently learned from Louisoix), and she's used CNJ abilities on more than one occasion.
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    Conjurer's only having a limited number of attack spells is a non-issue. There's no rule that she can only use abilities that are in FFXIV, otherwise, a lot of Dissidia characters would be pretty much screwed.
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    Y'shtola is cool, but I'm really looking forward to using an ADS summonstone so I can High Voltage the shit out of my opponent's bravery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    In the video she uses at least one instance of an ice attack that resembles Blizzard III. She'll probably be pulling skills from all 3 DoMs.
    Plus unlike a lot of the other character's in XIV, she actually has a flashy signature attack (well, defense, but i can be used offensively). The only other characters with signature attacks that aren't villains are from the hildibrand storyline.
    In the video we see her use Blizzard III, in game her signature is a variation of sacred soil+Protect (that she apparently learned from Louisoix), and she's used CNJ abilities on more than one occasion.
    I must've missed this then because she has not done anything that I remember that was any thing special.
    Feels like she had more of a role in 1.0 because here....the Scion's are very boring, sepct' Papalymo and Yda...Boobillia is the worst.
    I never played 1.0 so I wouldn't know much of anything that was done there.
    Edit: Page 3 - Felis post: I don't remember her using Succor...hmm...cool lol.

    I dunno, she just doesn't feel like she fits in the game.
    I agree with Hilderbrand for the lulz.
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