Xeno's Warrior Opener Guide *updated 2.5

[Ehayte]

But if I only clip Fract by 6 seconds... I'll have gotten 260/300 potency. 240 potency is 30 potency higher than the average of the non-berserked BB combo (highest dps). So since we aren't applying it under maim, you have to adjust the average of your other combos (which is like 202.5 or something) by 20%, which makes that average like 247 or something. So its potentially a 13 potency per GCD gain?

So.... its really unclear is my point lol.

[Xenosys]

In a coordinated group it shouldn't.

In a PUG it can, especially BRDs and BLMs getting lucky procs.

Doesnt matter if it is a pug or coordinated. I help a lot of groups with FCoB and if anything it is easier in a pug to hold aggro because the opening burst my main group produces is banana sandwich!. The buffs you weave in will help you produce extra aggro and you should not lose hate.

[d4gz]

shouldve waited for double inner beast

[Xenosys]

shouldve waited for double inner beast

haha yea! thats the dream pull! but in most situations that wont happen X.X

[SirTaint]

Doesnt matter if it is a pug or coordinated. I help a lot of groups with FCoB and if anything it is easier in a pug to hold aggro because the opening burst my main group produces is banana sandwich!. The buffs you weave in will help you produce extra aggro and you should not lose hate.

Disagree. Not every WAR is BiS. An IW War vs a couple i135 dps can run into issues with your guide.

Our Static war (rag with BiS armor) uses your exact rotation and it gets hairy before BB with our i135 BLm and BRD. After BB it's all gravy.

[SpookyGhost]

Depends more on how much STR you have than how much gear you have, though that's pretty debatable as well. I can see an i130 BRD pulling with lucky procs, but BLM has ramp up time starting with T3 -> F3 -> Raging -> F1 -> [proc] -> F1. Even with FS procs, you should be @ Eye by the time they have a possibility of launching one. An Unchained + Zerk + IR + Maim'd SE is pretty ridiculous on enmity. It is, of course, up to the discretion of the WAR to decide whether it will work for him/her or not, though. Optimally (for enmity, for damage, for everything) you'd want to open with SE, but if it's not possible for you then it's not possible for you. It's not the end of the world to open with BB after all.

[Xenosys]

Disagree. Not every WAR is BiS. An IW War vs a couple i135 dps can run into issues with your guide.

Our Static war (rag with BiS armor) uses your exact rotation and it gets hairy before BB with our i135 BLm and BRD. After BB it's all gravy.

I use this same rotation on my alt that is I112(shiva axe) against all dread weapon players for farming and sell runs. The rotation is solid. If you are losing out on aggro then it is due to range not using quelling or you are not activating buffs properly in between gcd's. Whenever I post rotations or guides I always keep in mind the vast majority of players, because you are absolutely correct, not everyone is BiS. Most of my testing is actually finalized from my alt before i post. Also tell your warrior to try starting with OP not tomahawk. Or if they need to reposition the boss, use OP after the tomahawk as he runs through to get in front of the boss if he is still having issues. Str may also be an issue as well. This rotation is not for VIT heroes. Too much VIT=Bad. Anything over 10.5k needs to be put into str. You can actually go lower depending on your comfort and how much you turn defiance off.

[SirTaint]

I guess that's my point. It IS the ideal opener.

But there are times/players that would look bad using it.

But then again people taking the time to view a guide at least are trying to research.

[Xenosys]

I guess that's my point. It IS the ideal opener.

But there are times/players that would look bad using it.

But then again people taking the time to view a guide at least are trying to research.

Yea my gear and rotations are based on a very specific play style so i can definitely see what you mean.

[Hakmatic]

Yea my gear and rotations are based on a very specific play style so i can definitely see what you mean.

Ive watched alot of your vids and i think you do a great job tanking, but i can tell you this right now, there is no way you would hold agro from me with that opener. Id have it off of you before you ever got close to your first butchers.