SMN redesign in expansion?

[Cebo]

We know we need one. SMN toolkit is just an Arcanist with Fester. While it's confirmed that we're getting new pets, what I fear most in the expansion is that these new pets still won't trump Garuda's utility, and will be shelved within a month.

Solution? One idea is to change SMN's to be more like DAoC's Theurgists. Theurgists didn't have a permanent pet, but could keep chain summoning elementals that would taunt, deal damage, or buff the party, as the situation required. It's a design for a pet-class that I've rarely seen replicated in MMO's.

We could still maintain our two primary pets that we share with Arcanists (ie. Titan/Garuda), but Square could then change the function of the Ifrit summon and every other summon we acquire from hereon (Leviathan, Phoenix, Golem, etc.) to be a temporary summon (that does not despawn Titan/Garuda) which deals damage or provides some raid utility. In that way, Ifrit would be a spell we add to our rotation, rather than a pet left unused.

[Alistaire]

Please stop making these threads.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

It will probably get some sort of buff in heavensward

[Clarkamite]

I'm not much for SMN threads of any kind at this point, and apparently neither are our two friends above, but having said that I rather like your idea. I have zero clue if that would actually work in this game at all seeing as how I have no clue what the meta will be like come heavensward but I do think it's a rather interesting solution to some of the more playstyle gripes people have with SMN. As far as the rest of what needs work with SMN I don't know that those would help but I do like your idea as a change of pace for playstyle.

[abzoluut]

It has been said several times now this exact same idea in the previous 100 SMN threads.

[Eraqus]

I Know that this topic ita very Old, i mean the smn restyling. But guys its sadly true. The smn needs a REBORN. i have started as smn, player it PRO, but it ddint satisfied me, bcoZ it dosent really LOOK LIKE a smn, and thats y i quitted it. Summoning a EGI dosent mean ur a SUMMONER. sch can summon entities Too but its not conaidered a SMN. a smn should be a TRUE ummoner with all Spell summon-related. Not bio miasma and bio 2. I gave up on this a lot of time ago, but ill repeat it For the 174737 time. DOT dosent fit up For a smn. Its ridicolous.

[Zenaku]

I pretty much had to switch to BLM for turn 10 which is sad at least in turn 11 SMN is not that bad with ifrit egi help out kill the add. Overall i hope they fix it without changing everything that we enjoy about smn.

[Brianmj]

You don't like the current Summoner? Don't play it. Try out the Summoner in FF11 or wait for Final Fantasy 17 Online. Leave the current incarnation as is.

[Zenaku]

You don't like the current Summoner? Don't play it. Try out the Summoner in FF11 or wait for Final Fantasy 17 Online. Leave the current incarnation as is.

You crazy if you think they wont redesign SMN in 3.0 i just hope it still play somewhat the same just better overall.

[Meier]

Hope the devs will do something besides continue to ignore these 100's of threads. :/