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    Change default to make it so bosses can't be pulled during cutscenes

    Am sure this has been suggested before, but since FF games are so much about story, would love it if bosses were made immune / unpullable so long as anyone in the group is watching one of the cutscenes.

    On the one hand, I certainly understand that some of the instances have some mighty long cutscenes in them, certainly longer than I would think ideal for the middle of instances, but it really does take away from the experience, with folks being locked out / hounded to watch them in the inn at the end, etc., and told that if they want to watch the story they should set up Party Finder instances saying that they want to watch the cutscenes. This really is backwards, though, imho. The default should be that the cutscenes will play, and if waiting that extra bit really is going to kill someone, they should be the ones who have to go out of their way to set up Party Finder groups, especially since the Duty Finder version is the one that's required to move the story along.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    I agree, too many people wanna rush through everything, but that takes the fun out of it. When preparing to fight a boss that has a cutscene I think that circle barrier that appears in primal battles should appear, maybe around the boss instead of the player. I don't think i should have to go to the inn to enjoy the story.
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    Ania Tichy
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    I fully agree, I get tired of others always saying that the ones wanting to watch the cut scenes are being rude and should just watch you tube or at the inn. They are missing the whole idea of what are only 2 level 50 dungeons that are directly part of the last part of the main story! Final Fantasy games are always story focused and yet so many players only care about getting to "end game" as fast as possible. Both dungeons make you feel like you part of a grand and dangerous adventure. I feel it was a mistake to include the main scenario dungeons in the roulette as players want to do those as fast as possible. Maybe SE should create a different version for doing those roulettes that has no cut scenes in them. For the story version make a separate duty finder that includes your suggestion, to keep players from forcing others to skip the cut scenes or be locked out of boss fights.
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    Not to mention the Cutscenes at the inn are the shorter edited version of the cutscene. The inn does not contain the full version of the storymode cutscences ,they are shorter edited versions of it.
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    I was able to find the full cut scenes, they aren't part of the main scenario ones but part of that particular dungeon, that said I watched them and found they were missing some of the really important ones in the two dungeons. That and how many actually spend the time to go back and watch them. As soon as they are done most are off to the races to get their relic and getting to "end game".
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    Jerks in Castrum Meridianum

    Well as if to give this thread more credit, I was just in a Main Scenaro Duty Roulette, I got Castrum Meridianum, had a role bonus and a noob bonus. Well that all went down the drain because when I defended the new players' right to watch the cut scenes I wound up getting booted a minute later. Well I reported the guy and the run and made sure to mention that another player, both of us healers, supported the two new players right to watch the scenes and not miss out on the fights. One of them even said, and I quote, "Really? Watched the cutscene and locked out." The other one said, "Are we still gonna get credit for this quest?".

    This is a big issue Square please do something.
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    Unfortunately, even if they implemented such a feature, it still wouldn't remove player attitudes towards those who want to watch the cutscenes - such idiots would then just insist on "players who already cleared dungeon only!" and would immediately boot anyone who says "I'm new" at the start.

    Short of completely removing the ability to skip cutscenes in a dungeon period, I don't see any easy way to fix this sadly without someone abusing or exploiting it (or making life hell for those of us who like to play a dungeon how it was supposed to be played, that is, watching the cutscenes).

    And Eloah, you deserve commendations!
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    I also was in a Daily Roulette for one of the two, don't remember, we had a new player and he was locked out of the first boss since he wanted to watch the cut scenes, he was very upset, and very unusually the tank who was going to keep locking out the new player was voted to be booted! That is so rare. I personally think those two should be removed from the Roulette or as I mentioned before make a different version such as a hard mode one, for the Roulette with no cut scenes and not part of the main story. As Enkidoh stated the story version, cut scenes can't be skipped or the other I think better idea is to remove the timer for the boss fights. I know this was probably put in place to keep players from going afk and making everyone wait for a long time. I guess the timer could be increased to the time it would take for a cut scene to be normally completed.
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    Ania Tichy
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    I didn't have room to add to my last reply, so additional post. I do believe that SE really needs to make some kind of real change here as this has been one of the most contentious issues in this game since the start. It could be that Japanese players are much different in this regard, it seems that most players at least in NA, not sure about other regions, seem to be on the impatient side and want to speed through everything. Those two dungeons were a great idea but need to be done in a way that doesn't cause so much anger and frustration with players, which ruins the fun.
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    I definitely think SE needs to do something to make cutscenes more integral to the game. I am tired of this new breed of gamers who refuse to read a thing and complain when they can't skip a cutscene. You might as well listen to music and ignore all the words.
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