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  1. #81
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    I like them as they are, if you want an option fine, but don't ask them to destroy my Au Ra, to make yours.

    Sorry if it sounds offensive, but if they make them more muscular i won't fantasia my char into an Au Ra, and i'm very hyped about it.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evumeimei View Post
    That's true. Regardless, I actually like the body design for the male Au Ra as is. I'd prefer they keep the current model (which they likely will) and not change them to have massive shoulders and tiny heads. ^^; Also, if they changed it, the difference between the males and females of the race would be even bigger.

    If anything, I'd prefer they make the females look a bit more fierce.
    well, muscular ppl don't have larger heads ^^ their face-muscles are also stronger, to make the body more symetrical. So if they made bulkier Au'ra, they'd have to put on some extra meat, on their faces too; not necessarily making the heads bigger.
    Ya, pretty much only fem roes look a bit fierce, the others are different kinds of cute, already...so they could have made something different...like valkyrie/amazon-sexy-fierce, or succubus...well there's already succubi in the game, so that could scare the shit out of NPCs, if you waltzed into the cities, looking like one; but yah...here's to hoping they make something less kawaii, if they add more races in the future.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    I like them as they are, if you want an option fine, but don't ask them to destroy my Au Ra, to make yours.

    Sorry if it sounds offensive, but if they make them more muscular i won't fantasia my char into an Au Ra, and i'm very hyped about it.
    If they're not noticeably different than the existing races, though, then honesty, what's the point of adding them at all? It seems to me that the only thing people are excited about is that they're technically "new", but if they're going to look the same when clad in armor, then they're not adding anything of lasting value to the game.

    Meanwhile, if they add just a bit more muscle -- not a drastic overhaul, just broadening their shoulders and chest muscles -- it could serve as a race that could attract a lot of new players.

    I know a number of old Guild-mates who play Orcs in WoW, and feel like the characters in FFXIV seem too "girly", or the Roegadyn, which seem "goofy". When I showed them the artwork of the Au Ra, we were all in agreement; they look badass. I worry the in-game footage would only serve to alienate them once again, not to mention my own tastes also veer towards "tough-looking" races.

    You already have three thin humanoid races to choose from. I think it's far more important to cater to others' tastes this time around.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
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    You can say w/e you want, but some people like them as they are, i like them as they are, and they are done, as i said you can ask for an option i don't mind, but if they are changed now some people will be disappointed and won't even try them, changing them to appeal you and your group of like-minded people, will ruin the race for me and my group of like-minded people, no one is right or wrong, but Au Ra are already done, and my group is the one being pleased by the race.

    You say they are like any other race, i say they are different enough to appeal to me, why is your opinion more valid than mine?

    I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but every opinion will find opposition and if you keep asking the dev team to change them instead of adding options, i'll have to show mi dislike for this idea.

    Edit:

    Gonna leave this here for you and the dev tam, it's a player-made poll, i don't remember the thread where it was posted.

    http://strawpoll.me/3247034/r
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    Last edited by Renik; 02-01-2015 at 03:20 AM.

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    SE just needs to come around & give us "body-types" with Heavensward... 'slender', 'average', 'built'.

    I've learned we just have to embrace clipping unfortunately, so them having to stretch armours to match new build types would be fine.

    Every race we have now, as-is, would be the 'average' build for that race.

    Au Ra would then get a "bulkier" option in character creation with larger, more defined musculature.

    (they still need a scaly-scale feature too though which gives them dragon-like scales all over their shoulders and up... or at least on the entire face).


    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Gonna leave this here for you and the dev tam, it's a player-made poll, i don't remember the thread where it was posted.

    http://strawpoll.me/3247034/r
    That poll comes from a massive vocal MINORITY.

    Not only that, a lot of people by their nature will vote in favor closely after a reveal because "ooo, new, shiny". So it's likely confounded a bit.

    Once more people take a step back & examine them more subjectively, a number of those people would likely change their minds.

    And even if they "like" the Au Ra as revealed, that doesn't mean they wouldn't like to see improvements still.

    I definitely like them but they can easily be better. As it is now, they're too similar to the whole "basic humanoids with one minor twist" thing we have going on.

    I honestly bet that if we did the poll again, we would get pretty different results.
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    Last edited by BigPapaSmurf; 02-01-2015 at 04:23 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf View Post
    That poll comes from a massive vocal MINORITY.
    I agree with the first part of your post about the sliders as an option not forcing everyone to the changes.

    But for the snipped part, i'm sorry, but there's no source to support that argument other than an internet cliche, i have seen this argument a lot of times to invalidate others' opinions in multiple sides, and the poll started to get strength 2-3 weeks or so after the announcement, and i know it because i have been checking it almost every day.

    Also i will play it because i like them as they are, and i voted i like them because the front horns are too big for my liking.

    And last, something i want to add, Yoshi said in the fan fest that Au Ra would be more customizable than the other races.
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    Last edited by Renik; 02-01-2015 at 04:45 AM.

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    Still I'd love to see a poll of what % of the players will switch first day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf View Post

    That poll comes from a massive vocal MINORITY.
    What the hell are you talking about? The results of that poll come from the Au Ra discussion thread right around when they got revealed.
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    Vocal minority because only 1854 voted. There's at least over 500k people playing this MMO, all in different countries speaking different languages. That is what BigPapaSmurf is talking about.

    559 voted they like them and 404 voted they're perfect. That's not even 1% of the community.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 02-01-2015 at 08:16 AM.

  10. #90
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    LOL everything shown so far is just concept art. We haven't even seen any actual in-game screenshots of this new class.

    As for me, I think the slender concept art looks fine. If I wanted to look fat and overcompensating I'd create a Roegadyn. Remember this new class is based off reptilian traits, not ape. Even dragons are slender compared to what you guys are wanting. Either way, let's maybe wait for an actual screenshot instead of just concept art before freaking the hell out? LOL.

    And if they do decide to go all bulky and overcompensating then I hope that's an option and we have a slider for bulk. But still - as has been pointed out MANY times in this thread, they'd have to redo every piece of armor in this game to fit the looks. So right now they have a choice - make em fat like Roegadyn or fit like all the other classes.
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