So how is EX Titan now?

[MrCookTM]

It's funny how people still pretend reaction is an important thing for Titan ex. The fight is 100% scripted, the rotation and timing for every move Titan does is always the same. The only random thing is who gets gaoled, and seriosly, that doesn't really matter.

The one thing that Titan ex requires that no other fight before him does is: execution! One thing alot of players just don't have. Since everything is 100% predictable you don't need the best ping or latency at all.

I give you an example: I live in the EU and play on the EU datacenter (chaos). I'm on PS4, so I don't have access to wtfast and naturally cannot just tone down my graphics to improve my fps on console, so I have to deal with a good amount of latency issues in that fight by default. What's my point now? My point is that I'm selling clear runs on my server. These are all one shots with only 3 dps and barely anyone ever getting hit, like it should be. Now this isn't with a group of players that always plays together, it's basically 2 or 3 big linkshells for selling runs and whenever some guy want's to buy a run, someone just asks in the LS who wants to participate and get free money, first come first serve. ^^ New composition every time. The point is that all these people mastered the fight and are able to 'execute' it perfectly even while almost sleeping. Titan ex is all about memorizing the pattern and executing it properly. That's it.

tl;dr: step it up and learn the fight, and ffs STOP BLAMING THE LAG! There are TONS of guys with terribad pc's and even ps3 players with overseas server connection that one shot Titan ex all day for pony farm. Stop excusing, learn your shit!

[ruskie]

Hmmm PF then DF then PF and clear... think overall 4 sessions in total. Titan is kinda sleep through unless you have lag though.

Titan ex is all about memorizing the pattern and executing it properly. That's it.

Either that or reacting apropriately when the time comes. The most important thing though is do it and learn something each time you fail.

[Werhusky]

Titan is kinda sleep through unless you have lag though.

I remember my 2nd clear in total firsttime tanking... i was soooo beyond my sleeptime eyes were already half shut and even if we talked at start about it that other tank would take adds I ended up tanking them. I had an idea where to take em as i healed it before but oh well I was surprised by my sleepy self to do the job ^^

[SpookyGhost]

On JP datacentre every DF Titan EX is one-shot. I don't understand why NA datacentres are so bad with this in DF, even with crummy DPS everyone has enough gear to defeat him.

JP uses DF for clears (aka you'll mainly find experienced players when DFing anything), NA/EU uses DF for practice. That's why JP always one shots things in DF that NA/EU can't.

[LineageRazor]

tl;dr: step it up and learn the fight, and ffs STOP BLAMING THE LAG! There are TONS of guys with terribad pc's and even ps3 players with overseas server connection that one shot Titan ex all day for pony farm. Stop excusing, learn your shit!

It is ridiculous to say that the predictability of the fight should make you immune to death by lag. Lag means that your machine is slow in communicating with the server. To prevent abuse, if there's ever an argument between where the server thinks you are and where your machine says you are, the server trumps.

You could have the timing and skills to beat Titan blindfolded and with one hand tied behind your back, but if lag hits just before Titan uses Landslide, and you're the target, it won't matter one bit whether you move to safety or not. The server thinks you took the hit, so off the edge you go!

Lag is an actual problem, not just an excuse used by scrubs. Lag is unpredictable; it comes and goes, sometimes a given person's connection can be good, and at other times bad. It's not a constant slowdown, it's patches of poor responsiveness. There is no way to guess ahead of time when you're going to hit a lag spike and move to a safe spot to compensate.

My connection is, in general, good, but there have been times when I've been laggy. In the worst cases, I've had moments when all action on the screen stops for fifteen seconds or more. During that time, the server thinks my character is standing stock still for fifteen seconds. If that were to happen on Titan Ex, that's pretty much a guaranteed ticket off the edge, and it doesn't matter HOW much I have the fight down pat.

[Yumi_umi]

The only difficult mechanic i had trouble with in titan ex was when everything stopped moving for a good 10 secs, then bam everyone is sonic the hedgehog.
I find myself slingshotted off the arena or dead cuz of the plume nuke i saw on my screen.
Pretty sneaky if you ask me lol
Someday i'll learn that mechanic.

[MrCookTM]

It is ridiculous to say that the predictability of the fight should make you immune to death by lag. Lag means that your machine is slow in communicating with the server. To prevent abuse, if there's ever an argument between where the server thinks you are and where your machine says you are, the server trumps.

You could have the timing and skills to beat Titan blindfolded and with one hand tied behind your back, but if lag hits just before Titan uses Landslide, and you're the target, it won't matter one bit whether you move to safety or not. The server thinks you took the hit, so off the edge you go!

Lag is an actual problem, not just an excuse used by scrubs. Lag is unpredictable; it comes and goes, sometimes a given person's connection can be good, and at other times bad. It's not a constant slowdown, it's patches of poor responsiveness. There is no way to guess ahead of time when you're going to hit a lag spike and move to a safe spot to compensate.

My connection is, in general, good, but there have been times when I've been laggy. In the worst cases, I've had moments when all action on the screen stops for fifteen seconds or more. During that time, the server thinks my character is standing stock still for fifteen seconds. If that were to happen on Titan Ex, that's pretty much a guaranteed ticket off the edge, and it doesn't matter HOW much I have the fight down pat.

I didn't say it makes you immune, but it makes you able to deal with it alot better. But do you seriously want to tell me the lag in Titan ex is bad enough to make people unable to beat the fight altogether? Hell no! ^^ Of course there are certain instances where big lag spikes are so bad, they make your character register your button press seconds later and of course that can wipe you in Titan ex, but that can happen in alot of other fights too.

The point is not that people are saying that Titan ex is laggy, i even admitted that myself. The point is that people are pretending it makes them unable to beat the fight at all, which is hands down just straight up ridiculous! People use this to make themselves feel better with their unability to beat the fight, and the fact how many other ppl are jumping on that train makes it even easier.

[Tiggy]

I remember doing Titan Extreme for weeks in DF

That was your first mistake. Expecting to make progress in a fight that tough exclusively with pugs you meet randomly. It's always been doable if you form your own party or grab skilled friends.

[Wizarus]

Cleared after 2 months as a SMN in Duty Finder. But that was because I refused to spend a dime on a carry.

Crazy part was it was SO easy when I did clear it, first run, almost no mistakes. Almost left a bad taste in my mouth after all the times I failed before.

[Mimi91]

heavily farmed on elemental data center DF, people farm for pony