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    Kazuma Haynes
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    I play sch on ps4 and have no problem. You just need to know what stuff ur not going to use. My 1st hotbar is healing spells, pet spells and aetherflow stuff. 2nd has pets, rez and cooldowns. Macro ur dots and remove bane and either ruin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    I play sch on ps4 and have no problem. You just need to know what stuff ur not going to use. My 1st hotbar is healing spells, pet spells and aetherflow stuff. 2nd has pets, rez and cooldowns. Macro ur dots and remove bane and either ruin.


    Do NOT listen to this guy. At all. You should have all of your abilities (and pets') on your hotbar, that's why they take 3. If you aren't using 3 Cross Hotbars as a SCH you aren't using enough. I'd explain my hotbars but its a bit messy. Its mainly:

    #1 = Most used abilities (Left Side is mostly Offensive, Right is Defense/Healing)
    #2 = Secondary + Rez + Most Fairy Abilities
    #3 = Misc Abilities + Pet Summoning

    Not saying this would work for everyone but I cannot imagine only using 2 hotbars, that's madness. Macroing your DoTs is pretty ballsy, you are a healer you should be applying what DoTs you can at what times, not sitting there waiting for a macro to end (especially if you have to prematurely end the macro, then you can't specifically choose to cast ones that never got applied). Not only that but what about Miasma II? Removing Bane or either Ruin is a bad idea. Bane is badass and greatly boosts your DPS. Both ruins have their uses: Ruin for Low Dungeons/Damage when you got nothing else to do and Ruin II mainly for blind but you can use it as a quick kill-while-running spell.

    If you train yourself well enough switching hotbars becomes second nature and you rarely think about it.

    On topic: I haven't found much use with Macros as a SCH. I've tried, but other than Eos' Abilities Macro I've found them to either be pointless (they don't make things easier or faster) or clunky. I tried Macroing Embrace to heals and found that it tied the Fairy up to much on my target for no reason, so I just leave her alone.

    @Players talking about using MouseOver on controller: How do you do this? I can't see this working well if at all.
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    Last time i checked bane is useless on final coil and it seems like a waste when it could be used on a lustrate or SS. The lower stuff yeah but final coil not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    Last time i checked bane is useless on final coil and it seems like a waste when it could be used on a lustrate or SS. The lower stuff yeah but final coil not really.
    Bane is yummy on T10 adds, just saying.
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    But the tank is taking damage too
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    But the tank is taking damage too
    Doesn't stop me from finding time to DoT and Bane safely during both add phases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    Last time i checked bane is useless on final coil and it seems like a waste when it could be used on a lustrate or SS. The lower stuff yeah but final coil not really.


    You are giving advice for just one raid? You either completely missed the point of this thread, or are just really bad at giving advice. OP isn't talking about final coil, so why would you tell her to set her bars up the way you do for this one raid?

    I don't get this. I haven't got this far, sure, but I can't understand justifying getting rid of Bane. You may not use it a lot in high content, but having access to it makes it so that you can use if and when you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    Last time i checked bane is useless on final coil and it seems like a waste when it could be used on a lustrate or SS. The lower stuff yeah but final coil not really.
    Our SCH banes blackfires in T12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    Last time i checked bane is useless on final coil and it seems like a waste when it could be used on a lustrate or SS. The lower stuff yeah but final coil not really.
    Are you sure you are playing the same raid as the rest of us? Bane is used all the time in FCoB. I Bane adds in 10, 12, and 13 while my Whm solo heals quite comfortably....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtv20 View Post
    I play sch on ps4 and have no problem. You just need to know what stuff ur not going to use. My 1st hotbar is healing spells, pet spells and aetherflow stuff. 2nd has pets, rez and cooldowns. Macro ur dots and remove bane and either ruin.
    I wouldn't recommend macro-ing your DoTs. Macros prevent the ability to "pre-cast" a spell before it is fully off cooldown. Granted that doesn't matter as much to Scholars as it would to Summoners, but it is still not a good habit to get into.

    And remove Bane? Really? I mean, I guess if you are a Scholar who doesn't believe in ever DPSing that's okay, but again, more Scholars need to get comfortable in DPSing when not shielding or healing. Arguably the one major advantage we have over White Mages is we are more complex, Scholars should NEVER have any downtime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defteros View Post
    uh, why is that? >_>
    I've always macro'd embrace with adlo/physick, and i've never had any problems healing, unsless I go full derp mode xD
    Because your Physick and Eos/Selene's Embrace aren't on the same cooldown. Theoretically, the longer a fight goes, you will cause your Fairy to go further and further out of sync with your casting and eventually will drop her healing output across an entire fight. However, I find it to be really insignificant across the duration 90% of fights in this game last, so it's a bit up for debate on how detrimental it is.
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    Last edited by Tsurayu; 01-27-2015 at 04:28 AM.

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