Will inactive FC and unsubbed player plots ever be relinquished?

[Alberel]

I really hope not. I paid a lot for my plot and I would hate to have to afk for a few months due to IRL circumstances and lose months and months of earning gil.

In a real estate system like we have here it's simply unfair for people that aren't using the land to be permitted to keep it. If someone doesn't log in for ages they should lose the plot and be given a voucher of some kind that would let them re-purchase that or a same sized plot when they return. The amount of time necessary for this to happen should be set quite high... say maybe 90 days or something? If anyone is gone from the game for more than 90 days there are hundreds of other players in the game that would make better use of that plot. The player losing the house wouldn't really lose any gil either, as they'd be able to re-acquire a similar plot later if they ever returned to the game.

[Kiyyto]

In a real estate system like we have here it's simply unfair for people that aren't using the land to be permitted to keep it. If someone doesn't log in for ages they should lose the plot and be given a voucher of some kind that would let them re-purchase that or a same sized plot when they return. The amount of time necessary for this to happen should be set quite high... say maybe 90 days or something? If anyone is gone from the game for more than 90 days there are hundreds of other players in the game that would make better use of that plot...

Why do you care who owns the property that you don't own?
If they are paying their sub fee... What the heck business is it of yours to decide "well, they don't log in enough... Let's take their stuff away."

Might be the most selfish thing I've ever heard here... No wait, nvmnd. I've heard worse on these forums, lol.
But it's close!

[Antwan]

Why do you care who owns the property that you don't own?
If they are paying their sub fee... What the heck business is it of yours to decide "well, they don't log in enough... Let's take their stuff away."

Might be the most selfish thing I've ever heard here... No wait, nvmnd. I've heard worse on these forums, lol.
But it's close!

From his message, it didn't seem like he was specifically talking about subbed players and more then likely talking about people who've unsubbed. Regardless though, taking one 5 minute moment during a 3 month period to log in, in order to just visit your house, shouldn't be difficult whether you are subbed or not, if you are that focus on keeping your house. To that extent what Alberel said stands true, you can't possibly admit to being wholeheartedly attached to your house if you never visit it.

[Kiyyto]

From his message, it didn't seem like he was specifically talking about subbed players and more then likely talking about people who've unsubbed. Regardless though, taking one 5 minute moment during a 3 month period to log in, in order to just visit your house, shouldn't be difficult whether you are subbed or not, if you are that focus on keeping your house. To that extent what Alberel said stands true, you can't possibly admit to being wholeheartedly attached to your house if you never visit it.

So you've arbitrarily decided that 5 min every 3 months is enough to justify my houses existence?
It still won't satisfy the OP cause he wants to see me running around town more than that 0_O.
Are we going to implement other social bans too? Am I going to lose my house if I don't talk to my neighbors?

The whole idea that somehow someone no longer deserves their home because they are not pleasing your definition of "active member" is absurd.

[Antwan]

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My personal definition of an active member is someone who logs on 3 times a week at least, but this missive only effects those that don't log in and visit their houses at least once in a 3 month period.


The OP never mentioned how the plan should go into effect so until that person makes a return showing we won't know how they feel about all the plans being talked about. So far the general consensus is 60-90 days should be enough time for a person to log in to check on their house if they plan to come back to it. Personally I'm more towards giving a person the full 90 days opposed to having them gone quicker then 60 days because I understand RL problems can even get your internet turned off for a while. But no one should be able to retain ownership of a house indefinitely if they never log on or visit their housing sector in that period of time.

[Alberel]

Why do you care who owns the property that you don't own?
If they are paying their sub fee... What the heck business is it of yours to decide "well, they don't log in enough... Let's take their stuff away."

Might be the most selfish thing I've ever heard here... No wait, nvmnd. I've heard worse on these forums, lol.
But it's close!

I don't know what I did to deserve such an insulting response from you when I wasn't even talking to you. Do you regularly butt into people's conversations just to shout insults in their face?

The fact of the matter is the current housing system involves limited amounts of real estate. They can either increase supply, which will lead to whole neighbourhoods of abandoned houses and defeats the entire point of the ward system, or they can ration the limited supply. To put it bluntly for you: if you do not play for a long period of time it is you who would be selfish by denying anyone else the opportunity to make better use of the plot of land that you have effectively abandoned. It's effectively cyber-squatting...

There are a LOT of very active players who want to buy a house but can't because they've all been bought already. Yet there are many known houses in every ward that are completely abandoned as the player that bought them left the game or the FC that owns it has been dissolved. Do you mean to tell me that I would be the selfish one to say that these players don't need their houses any more since they no longer play and instead allow someone that might actually use it to buy it? Personally I think it would make you the selfish one to think that you can hoard a plot of land you never have any intention of ever using again when plenty of other people would like one.

[Jasott]

Why do you care who owns the property that you don't own?
If they are paying their sub fee... What the heck business is it of yours to decide "well, they don't log in enough... Let's take their stuff away."

Might be the most selfish thing I've ever heard here... No wait, nvmnd. I've heard worse on these forums, lol.
But it's close!

Think of it this way. IRL Until you pay off your mortgage, you need to pay off your house on a regular basis, depending on how you set up that mortgage. If you don't pay anything over a period of time the property is foreclosed and the bank, or owner of the land by all rights gets to take it without question since you owe them money.

In game yes we buy the plot in full, but the "mortgage" would be either having an active sub or being active over a set amount of time. If that set amount of time lapses you aren't "paying" that "mortgage" so the contents of the plot would be removed.

[Antwan]

Think of it this way. IRL Until you pay off your mortgage, you need to pay off your house on a regular basis, depending on how you set up that mortgage. If you don't pay anything over a period of time the property is foreclosed and the bank, or owner of the land by all rights gets to take it without question since you owe them money.

In game yes we buy the plot in full, but the "mortgage" would be either having an active sub or being active over a set amount of time. If that set amount of time lapses you aren't "paying" that "mortgage" so the contents of the plot would be removed.

To add to that, depending on where you live the city can lay claim to your house if you let it rot for long enough becoming an eyesore to the community. To that extent if people don't keep up with their houses they lose them. Honestly if you put this to vote, I bet nearly 90% of the community would be okay with this, the other 10%? Imo they'd be out of their mind.

[Pterois]

Think of it this way.... In game yes we buy the plot in full, but the "mortgage" would be either having an active sub or being active over a set amount of time. If that set amount of time lapses you aren't "paying" that "mortgage" so the contents of the plot would be removed.

i've been wanting to bring this up for a while now but feel like people would just go meh this is a game game blah blah blah but this still rings true here. A permit can easily be issued in game for another house should you chose to renew your sub and log back on one day... yes you will not be able to get another house right off the bat because most will be bought out but lets be honest... why the hell are you even getting into something like housing (which is a long term investment of entertainment) when you get on and get off so often?