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  1. #171
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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Its not really about being a Nazi about it, it's about making sure information is being correctly dispersed, if that's too much to ask then sadly this forum will constantly be plagued with arguments risen from miscommunication...I am constantly editing my posts to accurately portray what concepts I am speaking about like Level =/= rank (at this moment anyway), Jobs =/= classes, but I digress.

    And no, I wasn't being a racist, but you claimed that specialization was my word, when it's not, it belongs to the American English language (or British English, but I used -ize spelling so it would really be the American English). I was being literal, not a racist.

    DNO you can choose to read or not read what people say, but I'm sure you will miss out on some gems of dialogue. Both of you bring up valid points of not wanting to be "limited" through specialization, and sure I would be a little upset if I were playing a single player game, but XIV is not, and therefore you need to have specialization in order to promote a lively economy. I'm truly sorry (and I am being sincere about this, I'm not being sarcastic) if you feel you have to purchase another character to play the game.
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    Rin Legacy
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Also, why should crafters be able to do all the high level stuff all by themselves?
    DoMs and DoWs also have to cooperate in a party to beat high level content, don't they?
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    LIkE this if you want SE to LIMIT us to one class per character then if you want to rank another craft up you must pay for a mule
    I agree that your wording here is extraordinarily biased, preventing people from wanting to choose it. Please change this to say:

    "LIKE this if you want SE to only allow ONE crafting class per character to reach the highest possible rank, once a true endgame rank has been implemented."

    ..That is, if you aren't afraid of what people really think of your challenge. I suspect some votes may change sides.
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  4. #174
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    Luckily, people at SE aren't so dumb as to fall for a rigged poll.
    The second option is worded in a way that it's not even a valid option.

    Heck, even I had to read twice to understand what he meant.

    @OP
    First, learn how to make a poll that actually asks people about what you are interested in.
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  5. #175
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    He should honestly should reword it to read "Like this if you want SE to allow us to specialize/master in one craft but are still able to reach the final rank/level of all the other classes."

    and "Like this if you don't want crafting classes to become specialized/mastered and still are able to reach the final rank/level of all the other classes."

    These are unbiased statements and pertain to the information we are currently aware of. I agree with you Duuude, he is making incredibly biased statements and skews his audience to like his idea rather than putting all the cards on the table so to speak.
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  6. #176
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    Useless poll; luckily SE will see through the ruse.
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  7. #177
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    Kipp Kaida
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    I think it's necessary that you can only master one class, and limit the ranks of the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    well lets look at a few facts

    yoshi wont delevel crafters, so those of us with tons of 50s wont lose anything if its a level thing
    leveling to 50 doesnt mean anything if you cant synth everything because only "masters" can do so

    so someone who is a master blacksmith, can do master recipes, but cant do master recipes for lets say...alchemy
    but they can still do the regular recipes.

    theres also the fact we will see level caps in the future, and perhaps you have to specialize to go higher up? who knows


    but as it stands now, they said its a low priority so i dont think they know how they even wanna approach it when the time comes, and they arent even worrying about it at al(If it even happens at all)
    This is exactly how I hope they do it, they can release a quest line to increase your craft rank above 50 (when they go that route) and for the time being they can have "master synths" which allow specializations to be introduced sooner then when lvl cap goes up.

    I am 100% in favor of limiting your crafts as long as it still provides a benefit for the ppl who already have multi rank 50 crafts now.
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  9. #179
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    for the last time I'm not chaging the poll don't like it? don't post. its clear if 1 craft per person is true u will need a mule that's a fact (if you do not want to be limited to 1 craft you will need a mule just like you guessed it FF11)
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    Last edited by DNO; 08-02-2011 at 10:15 PM.

  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Its not really about being a Nazi about it, it's about making sure information is being correctly dispersed, if that's too much to ask then sadly this forum will constantly be plagued with arguments risen from miscommunication...I am constantly editing my posts to accurately portray what concepts I am speaking about like Level =/= rank (at this moment anyway), Jobs =/= classes, but I digress.

    And no, I wasn't being a racist, but you claimed that specialization was my word, when it's not, it belongs to the American English language (or British English, but I used -ize spelling so it would really be the American English). I was being literal, not a racist.

    DNO you can choose to read or not read what people say, but I'm sure you will miss out on some gems of dialogue. Both of you bring up valid points of not wanting to be "limited" through specialization, and sure I would be a little upset if I were playing a single player game, but XIV is not, and therefore you need to have specialization in order to promote a lively economy. I'm truly sorry (and I am being sincere about this, I'm not being sarcastic) if you feel you have to purchase another character to play the game.
    Yet you choose to ignore everything i say and go into semantics to make my point less valid.
    Are you gonna debate about the subject at hand or your gonna stick to semantics ?.
    Completely ignoring the debate.Only going on and on about your theory of what classes should be and that is pure speculation of whatever theory you came up with.

    facts are facts, if you wish to be at the top with more than 1 craft you have to reroll, can you comment on this instead of hand picking what you want to say to make yourself look intelligent?
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    Last edited by Zkieve; 08-02-2011 at 10:22 PM.

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