Going back to JP servers...

[lvlagmarink]

In JP servers,if I did mistakes,they took time to help me explain and do the job better.I'll just wait for my payckeck and I'll go back to JP servers. I can't take it anymore.

Really? When i'm playing in tonberry and go dfing, most of the time they dont bother to explain, with the difference in language and all, then rather vote abandon every 2-3 wipes.. And i'm gonna say that JPs are ellitist too, but in their own way, much less drama involved simply because less communication being involved..
I have 2 characters, EU and JP, and i usually apply the strat i use in EU to JP, now i dont claim myself in making mistakes, we just have different strat, but when we got wipes because of this different strats, they are mostly just vote abandon while chanting in japanese (using google translate) "can't help much with a foreign here".. How's that not ellitist? -_[~.~]_-

[seida]

we just have different strat, but when we got wipes because of this different strats, they are mostly just vote abandon while chanting in japanese (using google translate) "can't help much with a foreign here".. How's that not ellitist? -_[~.~]_-

I don't think you know what elitist means? So... you were using a different strategy to the majority, and this caused several wipes. Clearly you can't speak jp, so they were unable to explain to you how to do it. What else do you expect them to do apart from vote abandon? Keep on wiping because you don't know the common strategy on the server?

And on the topic of RMT, I don't think I have had a single RMT tell on Tonberry in the past 6 months. I do see bots though... but no tells for some reason.

[lvlagmarink]

I don't think you know what elitist means? So... you were using a different strategy to the majority, and this caused several wipes. Clearly you can't speak jp, so they were unable to explain to you how to do it. What else do you expect them to do apart from vote abandon?

A jp once explained to me with mark and waymark in garuda extreme, for once occasion.. Most of the times, it doesnt appear like that.. There's also auto translation... Like in shiva extreme, i usually provoke when she changes weapon from staff/sword.. But in jp strat, most go with provoking at bow stance, hence difference in method. The next thing i know, vote abandon simply because "foreign way", while a simply auto translation saying provoke would suffice, which a tank explained to me after 3-4 dfs.. One word is enough to explain at times and they think when it's different strat means impossible.. If it's not elitist behaviour, what would it be then?

[Kira-Yagami]

A jp once explained to me with mark and waymark in garuda extreme, for once occasion.. Most of the times, it doesnt appear like that.. There's also auto translation... Like in shiva extreme, i usually provoke when she changes weapon from staff/sword.. But in jp strat, most go with provoking at bow stance, hence difference in method. The next thing i know, vote abandon simply because "foreign way", while a simply auto translation saying provoke would suffice, which a tank explained to me after 3-4 dfs.. One word is enough to explain at times and they think when it's different strat means impossible.. If it's not elitist behaviour, what would it be then?

Out of Topic Question: How do you know if you're supposed to provoke at bow stance since Shiva haven't even changed her weapon yet? You wouldn't know if shes changing her weapon between staff/sword until she draws them out correct?

[lvlagmarink]

Out of Topic Question: How do you know if you're supposed to provoke at bow stance since Shiva haven't even changed her weapon yet? You wouldn't know if shes changing her weapon between staff/sword until she draws them out correct?

On p3 shiva always go staff first -> bow -> staff/sword -> bow -> repeat.. When shiva wears staff, she will twirl around and will rise up on sword, that'll happen before the icon actually change, but bow is always a sure think every even stance..

[Kira-Yagami]

On p3 shiva always go staff first -> bow -> staff/sword -> bow -> repeat.. When shiva wears staff, she will twirl around and will rise up on sword, that'll happen before the icon actually change, but bow is always a sure think every even stance..

If by what you said, tank swap at bow:
2nd Phase : Staff --> Bow(TANK SWAP) -- > Staff/Sword(tank swap again?) --> Bow --> Repeat

Doesn't that means you just added in an unnecessary step to tank swap twice in every rotation?

[lvlagmarink]

If by what you said, tank swap at bow:
2nd Phase : Staff --> Bow(TANK SWAP) -- > Staff/Sword(tank swap again?) --> Bow --> Repeat

Doesn't that means you just added in an unnecessary step to tank swap twice in every rotation?

You understand it wrong.. In western pop strat along with some people in tonberry who isnt japanese and never actually use DF:
P 3 = staff -> bow (with 1 vulnerebility debuff) -> sword (swap), if staff dont swap -> bow
In jp pop strat
P3 = staff -> bow (swap with 0 debuff) -> staff/sword -> bow (swap again)

And this simple misunderstanding is what causing wipes.. So unnecessary

[lvlagmarink]

Then there was time on mog ex that i said "<- warrior" with auto translation which would means that i'll take warriors, hence the other tank also took warrior and when let the paladin went to healers, the 2nd time, i said warrior again and he took warrior again.. And i tanked both paladin and warrior.. Another wipe... Vote abandon initiated but rejected, the 3rd times i just let the mog hit healers while waiting for him to pick either which he took paladin and i got clears, and 3 commendations..
And in shiva ex i say "north", "north" "east", "outside", and seeing the other tank took thr same spot, then vote abandon due to "foreign way"..

[HeroSamson]

How's that not ellitist? -_[~.~]_-

Because a Elitist is more like this.

Full party joins dungeon, One person dies and lets say it was the Elitist fault, he'll deny it and say everyone else sucks and leave instantly or say nothing and quit the dungeon doesn't matter if you almost won either or near the end.
Also pay for rushes and claim they busted their butts for that gear but was carried, I call those poser elites.

another example.

He'll keep harping on how great they are that they never die and if they died it was because someone else, my gear is better than yours, you died you suck and laugh, talks about how dps is better and kick people, kicking people because 1 piece of gear isn't up to their standards doesn't matter how well you play.
On lower jobs will say they have other characters higher level with better gear and they know how the job works so you should listen to them.

I can keep going, though I seen a lot of them in FFXI who claim the only reason people got the stuff they worked for is because of them.
I was in a shell like that in FFXI and I said no because everyone came together as a team not because of you, he tried to kick me out of shell and I left before that could happen, reason is i was tired of seeing him talk crap about other players when they werent on and acting buddy buddy when they were on.

SOA got like that, people say you need a high end sword to join the run but how are you supposed to get the sword if you cant join the run, which made zero sense and one of the reasons I stopped playing FFXI its like SE said SOA was made for elite players it was very hard to get into partys near the end, I figured out how to gain high weapons by joining a 3 hour boss fights dino, shark but when it came to the 18 people alliance that weapon wasnt good enough.