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    Hurray for asking for hand outs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Hurray for asking for hand outs!
    Which the OP isn't asking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riviere View Post
    Which the OP isn't asking for.
    If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done. 100% drop rates tend to have that effect. Increase the drop rate sure, but don't make it guaranteed. Some items are supposed to be rare and coveted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done. 100% drop rates tend to have that effect. Increase the drop rate sure, but don't make it guaranteed. Some items are supposed to be rare and coveted.
    No it isn't. It can drop every time and you still have to win the roll against anyone else interested in it, which can be the other 23 players.

    And why should it matter if it's a sure drop? I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.
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    Last edited by Riviere; 01-08-2015 at 03:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riviere View Post
    I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.
    Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.

    For the OP though, sucks that the drop rate for you is so bad. I've never had a problem with it, personally. Keeping in mind that if you see a minion per every five runs, it's still way better than any pony drop. Going on 100+ Shiva EX and never seen a pony once. RNG is RNG. Consider this though, all my friends ran ST only once a week for loot back when it was current...and then after it was unlocked completely, we ran it like, 3 times a day for Sands/Oils (and always were outbid) and in that time, all the people in our group got the Onion Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.
    How does it make it irrelevant when you've used it for months already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Fyi, people did complain about this because it was practically serving i110 on a platter with people who did SCoB, which hadn't been opened to all yet, saying thanks to SE for making their time irrelevant in raid.
    That was mostly about Hunt
    There was less complain while sand and oil went into CT2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Keeping in mind that if you see a minion per every five runs, it's still way better than any pony drop. Going on 100+ Shiva EX and never seen a pony once. RNG is RNG.
    More to the problem which will arise soon after the last CT comes out, which will make the current ST queue times way longer, as it is now, i've seen it every 5-10 runs, along with throne gem.. But the queue time for ST is like 5-15mins as a tank, a bit faster as healer, and a bit horrendous as dps.. When ST first came out, the queue was almost instant to -10mins.. I've seen people farmed ponies, hence never see a party farm for onion knight, which is why i wouldnt complain about pony drop rate much..
    I wouldnt complain about drop rate if for some reason people are still running ST which would be outdated soonish..
    Tldr.. How would you get a drop rate if the runs are scarce to begin with..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riviere View Post
    No it isn't. It can drop every time and you still have to win the roll against anyone else interested in it, which can be the other 23 players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    If it drops every single time then it practically is. Within a week everyone who wants one would have it done.
    I didn't say it would be instant, but it will be very fast when you can get on guaranteed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riviere View Post
    And why should it matter if it's a sure drop? I don't see anyone complaining that sands, oils and UATs are guaranteed drops from the last 2 bosses.
    Actually, some people did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    There was less complain while sand and oil went into CT2.
    Less sure, because the dam had already been broken, but people still did complain so he was accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I didn't say it would be instant, but it will be very fast when you can get on guaranteed.
    So? Is someone's e-peen affected by that? It's not even something that you earn through hard work, just luck.
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    Last edited by Riviere; 01-08-2015 at 07:38 AM.

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