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  1. #2171
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    Edeline's Avatar
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Can we send our Retainers off on multiple Ventures at once please?

    For example, I can send off my Retainer on a 40 minute Venture to obtain 60 Wind Shards for 1 Venture. Allow us to instead pay them X Ventures to multiply the time required and rewards, so I could pay 10 Ventures to send them off for 400 minutes to bring back 600 Wind Shards.
    They have 1 hour "cooldown" for a reason, that's not gonna happen :l
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  2. #2172
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    They have 1 hour "cooldown" for a reason, that's not gonna happen :l
    His suggestion truthfully changes nothing in that though. With exception for the not being required to stand next to the bell every hour to resend the retainer out. Time taken for the 600 shards, whether done manually or by the suggested form would in theory be very similar. Just a whole lot less tedious.
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  3. #2173
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    They have 1 hour "cooldown" for a reason, that's not gonna happen :l
    What "cooldown"? I can send my Retainers off on another Venture the moment they get back from the last. If you mean the time it takes them to do a Venture, reread my example because I don't think you understood it.

    Like Fornix said, it's solely about making things less tedious by removing the bell camping currently involved. It would also perhaps be nice to send them off for multiple things using the same system; Just combine the Venture cost and the time they take on the Ventures. It would still cost the same amount of Ventures and they'd spend the same amount of time off on Ventures, the only difference is the removal of slight delay in collecting one Venture and sending them off on the next. They could add an extra Venture cost to balance that out I suppose...
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  4. #2174
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    it's solely about making things less tedious by removing the bell camping currently involved.
    That "bell camping" is mainly about making sure you're actually in the game. There would need to be some way of ensuring that you couldn't just keep them out on hourly ventures 24/7.

    Maybe your suggestion would work if they added a rule that as soon as you either log out or go AFK, it automatically cancels all future ventures, so they just finish the one they're already on and then stop until you send them out again. But they'd need some way to make sure players couldn't circumvent the automatic AFK detection and stay logged in continuously.
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  5. #2175
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    That "bell camping" is mainly about making sure you're actually in the game.
    That isn't what it achieves though... All it does is, for example, "force" me to stop whatever I'm currently doing and go to a Retainer Bell every time a Venture is finished.

    So what if I could set my Retainer to go off and farm 600 Shards while I log off and go to sleep, that isn't really a balance issue because right now during the day I'd just have them do that anyway. Only difference is one method is annoying and the other isn't. Either way I'm going to send my Retainer off for 600 Shards, the current system is just simply an inconvenience to the player since it breaks up whatever you're currently doing with resending a Retainer. Like I said at the end of my last post, they could simply balance it out by increasing the Venture cost to "pay" for the convenience.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 12-20-2014 at 07:41 AM.

  6. #2176
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    That "bell camping" is mainly about making sure you're actually in the game.
    That isn't what it achieves though... All it does is, for example, "force" me to stop whatever I'm currently doing and go to a Retainer Bell every time a Venture is finished.
    It does both. You're interested in the one effect, so you're ignoring the other.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    So what if I could set my Retainer to go off and farm 600 Shards while I log off and go to sleep, that isn't really a balance issue because right now during the day I'd just have them do that anyway.
    It is a balance issue, because right now you can only do it during the day (or whichever timeframe you're actually playing). If you could keep them out 24/7, that's far more total ventures they could complete than they can now. The venture reward levels weren't designed for retainers who could complete that many of them.
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  7. #2177
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It does both. You're interested in the one effect, so you're ignoring the other.
    And you're quite literally going out of your way to skirt around my posts to avoid the method I proposed to balance the convenience; Raising the Venture cost. Using up more Ventures means spending more time in game earning Ventures (through whatever means) in order to spend. Same goal but a method which actually has me playing the game, rather than watching/playing something else and checking in every 40 minutes to reassign a Venture.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 12-20-2014 at 08:31 AM.

  8. #2178
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    Aria Ashford
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Since it looks like crafting materials are here to stay in dungeons, can we have the option of exchanging them for their value (or a portion of) in their respective tomestones?
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  9. #2179
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    QiLymePye's Avatar
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    Bloody Knuckles
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    And you're quite literally going out of your way to skirt around my posts to avoid the method I proposed to balance the convenience; Raising the Venture cost. Using up more Ventures means spending more time in game earning Ventures (through whatever means) in order to spend. Same goal but a method which actually has me playing the game, rather than watching/playing something else and checking in every 40 minutes to reassign a Venture.
    Maybe a better way would be to allow us to summon ventures anywhere with a personal bell, but limit functions. For ex. It could be called a Venture Bell. You can only use it to summon retainer to go on a venture or to check in from a venture to collect rewards that get sent retainers inventory. You can't touch the inventory at all, just send and receive ventures.
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  10. #2180
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    dracula_Q8's Avatar
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    Count Dracula
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    1- can we get new summons for summoners like ramuh and shiva .

    2- can we get new spells for blms like thunder (not dot one ) and winds and be real spells cuz how comes fire hurt ifirt while he fire elemant made . And put elements rotation in the mind like water > fire > wind > thunder > earth .

    3- are we going to see war as dps ?

    4- is there new fix for GCD in the system ?

    5- is it going to be pets fight in the game soon?

    6- can we skip the GCD for using potions in the fight and lower it CD?

    7- can we use /tell in duty? cuz we used to make Ls me and wife to chat in duty .
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