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  1. #1
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    Onizuka's Avatar
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    Cloudio Onizuka
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    Disconnection issue during instanced raids and improvement in the Loot System

    Hello, adventurers.

    I'd like to talk about an issue that is already known, but that in my opinion should have a higher priority to be fixed. I'm addressing my question to the community reps, hoping they may answer and shed some light on this matter.

    As listed in the 1.18 patch notes:

    Players who lose their connection or log out while in an instanced raid will be relocated to outside the area entrance when logging back in.

    I never understood why you couldn't immediately restart a Guildleve if your connection failed or the server crashed (that is, it's not your fault), and I always thought it was a serious issue that most adventurers weren't really considering. But that's because in Eorzea “I like to do what the moment tells me to”.
    Recently, Yoshida-san said that there's a plan (at last!) to solve that issue and allow to restart a Guildleve if you fail it because of a disconnection.

    Yesterday, I had my first disconnection while in Toto-Rak. It already happened to other linkshell mates and I'm sure to a lot of other people. I was about to fight Sargas and it happened. The worst part arrived when I returned: of course, I was sent out of the dungeon (even if for a second I was still in Toto-Rak), with the message:

    You were removed from the instance due to connectivy issues.

    ...and the linkshell mates defeated Sargas in the meantime. Since I still appeared in the party, I got the achievement for defeating it even if I didn't land a single hit, not a nice thing for the type of adventurer that I am. But all right, I'll just fight it again and pretend this “false achievement” never happened.

    The even less nice thing, however, is that Sargas dropped an Ascetic's Half-robe... and it went in my Loot List. But since I already disconnected, I didn't even know I got it until they told me.
    So when I returned outside of Toto-Rak, I found myself with this Rank 30 armor Unique/Untradable that I couldn't even wear and that I don't need.

    Thus, my questions/requests are:

    1) Are there plans to fix the disconnection issue during a dungeon or is it intended to work like this? If one evening I feel like adventuring in Toto-Rak with that good music in the background, if I had planned it with the linkshell mates or if we decided it on the moment, then it means that I want to do that. So if I'm kicked out for reasons that do not depend on me, it doesn't make sense that I can't immediately retry what I was doing, be it a Guildleve or being in the exact point where I was in an instanced raid. Are there plans to address this unfortunately annoying issue in dungeons?

    2) With that Ascetic's Half-robe example it is clear that the loot system has a problem. Are there plan for an improved system where, for instance, special items found in the dungeons are placed in a unique Loot List, where the party decides who gets what, so that, even if one party member disconnects, there's no risk he gets an item by mistake? If you could implement such a thing, even if exclusive to Unique/Untradable items, it would solve the problem.


    Thank you for the attention and double thanks in case of a straight answer from the community reps here. What I care to know is only if there're plans to fix these stuff.

    Sincerely,

    Cloudio Onizuka, faithful adventurer
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  2. #2
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    This is an issue that really needs to be addressed. I'd gladly welcome it if they delay the patch to fix this.

    Nothing sucks more than DCing and finding out the item you've been after for 3 days drops. And you're SoL due to some BS coding.
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    Last edited by Corrderio; 07-28-2011 at 03:59 PM.

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    Lerunes Second
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    Is there anyone out there that knows why there are d/c issues. I say this because, I have never d/c' ed very-much before, but every-time I get to many mobs on the screen in the dungeon, BAMM , I'm out.
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    Deceptistar Meow
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    being an MMO with raids planned, id have thought preparing the loot system would have been higher priority than like... moving the mobs around the map and enlarging their size...
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    Hey guys! The dev. team let us know that they are working on a method to allow players to rejoin their instance raid party after being disconnected, and that this should be implemented by patch 1.19! Hurray!

    In regards to the loot system, we are working on implementing a system similar to other MMOs in the future. I also did some digging and saw that we responded twice to this question! Here they are so that you won’t have to dig as far back as I did. See, I’m nice too! :3

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein View Post
    Hello everyone,

    We went over to the development team's desk and asked them about the future of the looting system.

    As of now, a discussion on adjustment of looting system is taking place.
    However there are many other updates and adjustments that need to be made on FINAL FANTASY XIV, they still need more time to have further discussion on this matter.

    We will continue to keep this matter in our mind and if there happens to be an update, we will let you know so please hang tight.
    Also if you happen to have any ideas and feedback, they are more than welcome so please don't hesitate to send them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    The dev. team is looking into the overall lotting system, but since the changes and adjustments to the battle system are a higher priority, it’s going to take a bit of time before they can fully address it.
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    Bethany "Rukkirii" Stout - Community Team

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    Ruri Valeth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    Hey guys! The dev. team let us know that they are working on a method to allow players to rejoin their instance raid party after being disconnected, and that this should be implemented by patch 1.19! Hurray!
    Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by lerunes_second View Post
    Is there anyone out there that knows why there are d/c issues. I say this because, I have never d/c' ed very-much before, but every-time I get to many mobs on the screen in the dungeon, BAMM , I'm out.
    Most of the DC issue in this game are cause by people not having their setting at appropriate levels. Most commonly AA should be set to x2 for most people.

    SE could fix this problem by implementing a detect optimal setting function like LOTRO did.
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    Necro Reabs
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    As this seems like it's going to take a while it would be nice if we could at least get a /random command (I don't think there is one currently) so we would have something to use on big drops from bosses/NMs until this loot system gets put in.
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    Airget Lamh
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    I'm glad to hear they are working on fixing the d/c,crash rejoin issue for instances. While it hasn't happened to me yet at times my game stops responding so not only am I on the edge as I stay alive in a dungeon but I'm also concerned that at any minute I'll get the elusive "window has stopped responding" message on my game window lol. While sure overall even if we do rejoin the instance we'll still be at a disadvantage since we'll lose time but it's a heck of a lot better then having a run cut short.
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  10. #10
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    Saga Gemini
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    How come a loot system is a not a priority when we "already" have 2 dungeons?
    That's pretty sad.
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