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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Balance it so you can only duel players on the same Class/Job you currently are. Done.
    A healer vs healer fight would literally last forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork View Post
    A healer vs healer fight would literally last forever.
    That hasn't been my experience with Scholars 1v1ing an OP... If both players do exactly the same thing, sure, that'd suck and go on until one runs out of MP. That doesn't happen though, just because they're on the same Job doesn't mean they're going to do the exact same thing. One can be aggressive, or conservative, one can react faster while the other makes mistakes that cost them the match. Having the same tools =/= you'll do the exact same things.

    I'll admit, mixed Jobs 1v1 can be fun in Frontlines, but I simply cannot see that being the case in a duel. You know a duel is happening, you know the other player is coming for you and only you, you know nobody is going to back them, or you, up. You cannot bait them, catch them by surprise, and so on. You lose almost all the edges which allow the less favorable Job to actually turn the tables. It just becomes a version of rock paper scissors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    That hasn't been my experience with Scholars 1v1ing an OP... If both players do exactly the same thing, sure, that'd suck and go on until one runs out of MP. That doesn't happen though, just because they're on the same Job doesn't mean they're going to do the exact same thing. One can be aggressive, or conservative, one can react faster while the other makes mistakes that cost them the match. Having the same tools =/= you'll do the exact same things.

    I'll admit, mixed Jobs 1v1 can be fun in Frontlines, but I simply cannot see that being the case in a duel. You know a duel is happening, you know the other player is coming for you and only you, you know nobody is going to back them, or you, up. You cannot bait them, catch them by surprise, and so on. You lose almost all the edges which allow the less favorable Job to actually turn the tables. It just becomes a version of rock paper scissors.
    Both healer classes can outheal their own DPS by a massive margin. My stone 2 crits for about 700 something. My cure 2 crits for about 2500 and something. Anyone who manages to die in a healer vs healer 1 on 1 fight fails at life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork View Post
    Both healer classes can outheal their own DPS by a massive margin. My stone 2 crits for about 700 something. My cure 2 crits for about 2500 and something. Anyone who manages to die in a healer vs healer 1 on 1 fight fails at life.
    Because MP is infinite and there is no way to interrupt casting...

    Any healer who sits by and lets their opponent healer get off a cure 2 fails at life. Scholar is much "worse" off since the pet extends things significantly and DoTs are slow, but I don't even see how that is a bad thing. Longer fights are more enjoyable in my opinion. Healer verses healer just comes down to who can DPS more while interrupting their opponent and still maintaining their own HP. They are far from infinite fights... At the end of the day though, if you don't want to 1v1 as Scholar or White Mage because they'll "go on forever", don't? White Mage verses White Mage is much more reasonable, and interesting, than White Mage verses Marauder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork View Post
    Both healer classes can outheal their own DPS by a massive margin. My stone 2 crits for about 700 something. My cure 2 crits for about 2500 and something. Anyone who manages to die in a healer vs healer 1 on 1 fight fails at life.

    Without cleric stance u can not even do that 700 stones since it is not allowed in pvp anymore.
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