Real Money to Get In-Game Currency: Eternal Bond Edition

[Seidaku]

The simple fix to this problem is to have 2 different bands available. Single and Double. Single band costs Y and requires the partner to have one as well. These are unsellable and untradable. The Double band costs 2xY and is unsellable and untradable but does not require the partner to have a band of their own, essentially only one person needs the band to perform the ceremony.

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Edit: Well nevermind then, the person I quoted corrected themselves.

[Adrian74]

--- More solutions to eternal bond trouble ---

Just came with this one, as it is right now, it is needed that two persons have the wristlet, but one person can buy two of those so then give one to another person... Why not... Instead.,... Allow the ceremony to be done if one person have the two wristlet and thus giving it later via quest to the other one?. This totally kills 100% the RMT with this and could be more easy to programate perhaps that dealing with the php queries and databases + website.

(Also added to the thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...45-Feedback%29)

[chrillix]

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It's posts like this that seriously make me shake my head. What kind of development process are you guys using over there where not ONE person says "Hey, the way we're implementing this could create some serious issues." Perhaps someone did, and was ignored for whatever ridiculous reason. You cannot seriously believe that asking players politely not to do something will have the desired effect.

[AdamFyi]

^yeah I realized I mistyped that & changed the wording just now before reading this. Good call! Truly looking into it however would've meant that they caught this early & shut it down fast; they're just biding their time.

Much better! They are most likely alerted and are now probably looking into the situation since we got an official response. However, shutting down the whole thing could lead to a potential.. Rollback. I know everyone would rather not have that, so, take this as a grain of salt. I've experienced a lot of MMOs that take their time to resolve issues like this and usually have a solution up once they are ready. MMOs that react quickly though, usually end up with rollbacks to the servers and this throws people for a loop. So I say, "take your time SE."

It's posts like this that seriously make me shake my head. What kind of development process are you guys using over there where not ONE person says "Hey, the way we're implementing this could create some serious issues." Perhaps someone did, and was ignored for whatever ridiculous reason. You cannot seriously believe that asking players politely not to do something will have the desired effect.

It's more or less probably caused by the way the Mog Station may have been coded. They probably couldn't see how to allow two people to receive the bands unless they both bought it. So, they went ahead and decided to allow your partner to gift you the item by making it tradeable if you could not afford it. Again, most likely because of the way the Mog Station handles individual accounts. If otherwise, they could have delayed the Eternal Bond system so they could figure out a better solution.

[ChibiChan_Hyperion]

So I say, "take your time SE."

As long as they disable the ability to purchase the gold and platinum during this time, I'm all for them taking their time.

[BigPapaSmurf]

...shutting down the whole thing could lead to a potential.. Rollback...

Nah, they just take have to down the items for purchase from the Cash Shop while they figure out how they want to change things.

They can't do anything about what's already been sold (doesn't violent ToS), a rollback won't happen.

[Krr]

Ahahaha. The official dev response is "We won't punish you, but please don't so we don't have to write more code to prevent this?"

This really highlights the naivety of the design team.

[Vejjiegirl]

Ahahaha. The official dev response is "We won't punish you, but please don't so we don't have to write more code to prevent this?"

This really highlights the naivety of the design team.

Pretty much, Please stop so we don't have to spend time on a fix.

[NyarukoW]

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Which leads to my next and probably most serious question, what is to stop gil sellers from controlling both markets? Buying up bands and selling gil to make up the cost but still be able to eek out a profit from it?
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The number of bands that can be bought off the mogstation is infinite. RMT cannot imagine to about of RL money they need to do this. And furthermore what is a RMT seller going to do with all the bands anyways? Are they going to be able to sell them for more that the Mogstation? Who are the consumers clueless enough to consistently and repeatedly overpay for the stuff that is easy to get from the mogstation. So failing that, are they going to sell them at a loss over and over? RMT gil seller are not insane like players can potentially be, because they are in it for the RL money. So what this means is the RMT gil sellars can not and will not try to mess these wedding bands.

Does it mean some of the RMT with money and guts won't risk a few bucks to play the markets while the pricing discrepancy are working in their favor? Obviously the chance exist that some them might have made a windfall of gil that they now have to figure out how to unload, but it may more may not work out in their favor because they will have to deal with compete non RMT players sellling band and getting gil and reduced demand for the gil seller gil. Remember RMT wants dollars not gil, having more gil means more work to sell that gil, more risk, and if they put in dollars to get gil, that also increases their risk. And holding on to hundreds of dollars worth of wedding bands when the wedding rush is over, is having lots of loss making inventory.