I want an official response.

[OranKells]

Again, your only argument is that we shouldn't care because other people don't.

"Why do you care that all those innocent people died? The majority doesn't care, it doesn't effect them, or their lives."

I know that this is taking it to an extreme, but it's the same type of principal.

and we have reached godwins law everyone.

The cash shop is not the holocaust. they are not the same thing.

is it annoying and would I like to to go away? yes
Is the world as we know it ending? no

[Saint_Angeles]

whatever this was

Are you intentionally thick? I said if it became play to win, there's always the option to say "No, I'm not okay with this" and stop playing. If you feel like its unfair, than why would you play?

And yes, I put it in terms of "I" so let me translate because I understand reading comprehension is hard:

"If YOU look at a game and feel like it is predatory, then YOU HAVE EVERY OPTION TO GO "Oh, I (AS IN YOU) dont like this or paying this much money, I'm (AS IN YOU'RE) out" and stop playing.

Jeez I hope they have a potion at the cash shop to cure my OBVIOUS DEEP SEATED SELF CENTEREDNESS.

Also... "so self-absorbed you can't think about the well being of others?" Dude, this ain't life or death, its a game. If you're going to say I lack compassion than you certainly seem to lack perspective something fierce.

[Kuolema]

You are right I don't care about anyone else's enjoyment from this game. I play this game to relax from work and family obligations. If you are so offended by this revelation of my lack of caring for your plight then get over yourself. You are complaining about a game, if you can't see how silly that is then there is something wrong. You have free will to buy or not buy from the cash shop. You have the free will to pay or not pay for a subscription to FFXIV. Make a choice that you can live with and stop acting like a martyr because the MAJORITY of people really don't care.

[Amused]

is it annoying and would I like to to go away? yes
Is the world as we know it ending? no

I never said the world was ending. I explicitly stated that even I acknowledge that the example I used was extreme.

Are you intentionally thick? I said if it became play to win, there's always the option to say "No, I'm not okay with this" and stop playing. If you feel like its unfair, than why would you play?

And yes, I put it in terms of "I" so let me translate because I understand reading comprehension is hard.

I hope you realize that by shifting the focus away from specifically yourself, and redirecting it to me, in no way contradicts my original factual statement that you are only thinking of yourself.

Changing it from being in reference to you, and just pointing the finger at me is again showing that you're only thinking of how it effects you, and how you feel about it.

You are right I don't care about anyone else's enjoyment from this game. I play this game to relax from work and family obligations. If you are so offended by this revelation of my lack of caring for your plight then get over yourself. You are complaining about a game, if you can't see how silly that is then there is something wrong. You have free will to buy or not buy from the cash shop. You have the free will to pay or not pay for a subscription to FFXIV. Make a choice that you can live with and stop acting like a martyr because the MAJORITY of people really don't care.

Thank you for only further reinforcing my argument.

And no, it's not just a game in this scenario. It's about a product we've invested ourselves in, and we're not being given everything we paid for.

[Tyrn]

Wonder for how long they're going to pretend they're not going F2P, until the expansion maybe.

[OranKells]

and thats why we pay for it. its actually content.

[Amused]

and thats why we pay for it. its actually content.

Every single thing in the game is content. Even the text in your chat log.

[Kuolema]

You can't be serious. This has been discussed ad nauseum and you know there is a difference between an expansion pack and a cash shop that is designed to nickel and dime people who have already paid for a game. You know that your point is ridiculous.

My point is how silly this argument has gotten. Yes I realize that there is a difference between the cash shop and an expansion I guess I wasn't clear in my sarcasm.

[Kuolema]

Does this mean that you would be OK if they sold you the expansion, but you had to pay extra for the new race and jobs?

I mean, they're optional. You don't need a new race. You don't need new jobs.

I wouldn't care if they did that because I have the ability to choose to purchase them or not. Just like I and everyone else has the ability to choose to purchase the items on the cash shop.

[Shake0615]

My point is how silly this argument has gotten. Yes I realize that there is a difference between the cash shop and an expansion I guess I wasn't clear in my sarcasm.

Poe's law at work I suppose lol