Let me just leave this here.

[Elusana_Celah]

Yes, ppl will pay insane ammounts of gil for this kind of stuff.

Actually yesterday I went mining, got a Boarskin map, opened it....treasure dropped an unhidden map, went to open it and got the new spriggan cap.
So I go to the MB to see how much are they selling for, there was none posted, looked at the history of sales....none.....WTH? server first trying to sell it?....well I placed it for 4m just to try to get some leverage on its worth.....was sold in about an hour for the 4m I placed it.

At least you earned your gil through a drop in the game instead of from the mog station. Congrats :3

[Erudain]

That meant you put it at WAY too low a price. Could have probably got at least 15mil for it. /comfort

Lol 15m is what a medium house is right now at Leviathan......would feel too much like a rip off....specially when all I did was kill 2 mobs...and none was hard to kill

[kyuven]

I thought about it. People would complain that things in the cash shop weren't available in normal play.
Well...guess what? Now they are. You, personally, don't have to pay SE one red cent to get them. SOMEONE does, but that person gets to walk away with a large sum of gil. Kinda like wedding planners in real life.
The more I think about it, the fewer problems i'm beginning to see.
Except now that Gil technically now has a RL monetary value, adding gold saucer gambling games has become nigh impossible due to certain asian and EU countries' gambling laws.
And it actually diminishes RMT since it's a far easier route than going to some shady site run by shady people, with the added bonus of SE getting a cut of the pot. Everybody wins.

[Elusana_Celah]

I thought about it. People would complain that things in the cash shop weren't available in normal play.
Well...guess what? Now they are. You, personally, don't have to pay SE one red cent to get them. SOMEONE does, but that person gets to walk away with a large sum of gil. Kinda like wedding planners in real life.
The more I think about it, the fewer problems i'm beginning to see.

It may not be easy to see now but this is the start of a crumbling MMO economy. People are upset because we are paying monthly to play this game and these RMTs will bring a swift decline to the economy and give people easier ways to gear up making people who worked for their gear and money seem like retards. There's a lot of prideful feelings mixed with worry about the game becoming pointless after some time.

[kyuven]

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HOW will they have easier ways to gear up? The way I see it, there were two types of complaints I saw all the time:
1) Overly rich crafters who were annoyed that they had nothing to spend their gil on anymore other than TP and repair costs.
2) Poor players who wanted #1's money because they didn't want to spend a ton of time crafting.
Now there's something to bridge the gap for those willing to pay for it.
It's a slippery slope fallacy. You don't have to work any more or less hard to get things, but now those with extra gil can use it on something that helps the economy, and those with extra (insert RL currency here) can actually afford the things that were previously only being purchased by actual ToS violators and the people who had accumulated a lot of gil. Such as housing.
The only things "easier' now is the price on those extremely expensive i110 items may actually go down a bit more.
It's not the doom and gloom you think it is.

[Taliph]

HOW will they have easier ways to gear up? The way I see it, there were two types of complaints I saw all the time:
1) Overly rich crafters who were annoyed that they had nothing to spend their gil on anymore other than TP and repair costs.
2) Poor players who wanted #1's money because they didn't want to spend a ton of time crafting.
Now there's something to bridge the gap for those willing to pay for it.

Nice strawman.

It's a slippery slope fallacy.

Only slippery slope if it isn't clearly pay to win. All RMT and RMT like services are inherently pay to win.

You don't have to work any more or less hard to get things, but now those with extra gil can use it on something that helps the economy, and those with extra (insert RL currency here) can actually afford the things that were previously only being purchased by actual ToS violators and the people who had accumulated a lot of gil. Such as housing.
The only things "easier' now is the price on those extremely expensive i110 items may actually go down a bit more.
It's not the doom and gloom you think it is.

Don't mention other consequences of fresh 50's skipping the grind to endgame, like less players using the older content to gear up.

[XgungraveX]

where are all the people supposing rushing out and buying theses items outside the people who didn't wanna pay cash in the first place? this is no different from players selling coil runs....

[Ryuukishi]

Sex learning party, expect wipes. Classic.

[Airget]

Uh..

If this about the SEX party and expect wipes?

Gotta stay hygienic if it's in a party dynamic.

[Kuwagami]

just so you know, classic RMT prices I see are about $1 per million.

Buy RMT gils, buy a ring for 10m or less, you got plat wedding for less than SE is selling it for. And now you can laugh at SE's approval of RMT activities (selling IG currency for real money. Doesn't matter if it's a player paying an other with real money, it's still RMT activities)