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  1. #231
    Player
    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Considering how hard MNK is shafted by RNG turns/mechanics compared to NIN? I think you'll be fine.
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  2. #232
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    Daweism's Avatar
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    Kurama Uchiha
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    I'm interested to see the details of that parse as well, as I'm not quite buying it. Can your FC mate import said parse, expand the encounter and click on your name (or your outgoing damage), so we see your crit% and min and max hits? 520 DPS is like 40-50 DPS higher than what is to be expected of a iLvl115 weapon, so providing details would be nice. Or I'll just drop by on your server and parse for myself.
    The crit was almost 30% to achieve those numbers, had to give it a few runs to hit 520+, if you averaged out my attempts it would probably be around 510ish DPS, the lows being just under 500, highs just over 520 as u can see. And max full thrust was 1800 I think on that parse. Don't forget mercy strokes.
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  3. #233
    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Motoko Kusanagi
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeromat View Post
    lol
    /10char
    lolwut? i only speak from what little experience i have. but i have never once needed to use Invigorate as a DRG, aside from using AoE's. as a NIN i usually need to use about either half way or 3 quarters of the way through a boss encounter. as a MNK... well they eat through TP like candy. DRG doesn't have high TP consumption.
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  4. #234
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    Mibhas's Avatar
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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Gotta be trolling. Invigorate is very much necessary on Dragoons. Why else would we be the class to get the traited version?
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  5. #235
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Cuchulainn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    THIS! So much THIS!

    MNK is STILL proven top DPS so why the f**k do NIN deserve to get a DPS decrease even when MNK is still hitting the highest DPS ceiling?!

    I switched from my main DRG to become a main NIN because of how good the NIN was technical-wise and the fact it out-DPS's my DRG (w/ DRG Nexus) so I may as well just go back to DRG then if it turns out DRG is going to out-DPS a NIN in 2.45....

    I WILL agree that the TP cost needed adjusting since Ninjutsu doesn't cost any but to remove ALL damage buffs from the Ninjutsu attacks themselves is BS.
    Personally I agree with as many people going back to playing drg after 2.45 as possible.

    Because I'm sick and tired of everyone and their mother playing nin. I for one am not switching back to drg, I've been waiting since release for nin to come out and mnk and drg were only filler for me until it did.

    If drg buffs are enough to make 40-50% of the people switch back to drg from nin, then I'm all for it as long as ninja isn't getting shafted like drg has been since 2.4s release.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 12-06-2014 at 09:01 AM.

  6. #236
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    jehuty08's Avatar
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    Dorne Greywoode
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    If drg buffs are enough to make 40-50% of the people switch back to drg from nin, then I'm all for it
    we dont want the bad players back though, you guys can keep them
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  7. #237
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    Character
    Aeryn Sol
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mibhas View Post
    Gotta be trolling. Invigorate is very much necessary on Dragoons. Why else would we be the class to get the traited version?
    I give it a 2/10 for effort.
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  8. #238
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    Eej's Avatar
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    Eej Ette
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daweism View Post
    The crit was almost 30% to achieve those numbers, had to give it a few runs to hit 520+, if you averaged out my attempts it would probably be around 510ish DPS, the lows being just under 500, highs just over 520 as u can see. And max full thrust was 1800 I think on that parse. Don't forget mercy strokes.
    So you cherry picked your highest parse instead of the average and also padded it with Mercy Stroke because bosses exist only at 20% or lower. Hmm....
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  9. #239
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    Doublestep's Avatar
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    Benjamin Ghazi
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 80
    i love inflating my unlikely scenario parse with party str buff on top of using mercy stroke the entire fight and pray to the crit gods
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  10. #240
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    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Party strength bonus inflating a parse? I don't get why people parse without it. The only content DPS matters in is group play.
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