Women and Armor!

[Ophie-Mio]

There is a reason.
Male players, in general, prefer to see some female armors designed like that.

This is not a reason.
How a male's preference in a female's clothing matters to how a female wishes to dress is completely against the idea here. What a male prefers has nothing to do with how we wish we dress ourselves.

And what you don't understand, Reimu, and the reason I don't acknowledge what you say all the time is that...

Let the males have their eye-candy and be glad that they actually like the female body - they are not hurting you in any shape of form.

...this is the most sexist crap I have ever seen.

Edit: Edited for the correct word, thank you!

[Amused]

This is not a reason.
How a male's preference in a female's clothing matters to how a female wishes to dress is completely against the idea here. What a male prefers has nothing to do with how we wish we dress ourselves.

And what you don't understand, Reimu, and the reason I don't acknowledge what you say all the time is that...



...this is the most misogynistic crap I have ever seen.

I'm female and I completely disagree with you, as well as everyone else in this thread who keeps insisting that revealing attire is misogynistic.

[Teryaani]

There is a reason.
Male players, in general, prefer to see some female armors designed like that.

Seems to me a valid enough reason considering that, as said, there are only VERY FEW armors like those.

If this was TERA I might find the issue understandable, but as things stands in this game, it just sounds ridiculous.

Let the males have their eye-candy and be glad that they actually like the female body - they are not hurting you in any shape of form.

I don't even... okay. Not sure how this is helping the discussion at all.

I like a full range of options in game. For those who want to full plate it up, that should be there. For those who want to throw on the swimsuit, that should be there. My wife tends to collect skimpy sets because she likes them, far more than even I do (when this character was female, I used a recolored mix of the lightning armor and some gathering pieces because it looked cool and functional, not because it showed a ton of skin).

Adormus is right that we can have both. As for the DRG armor argument, I don't like the spiky look at all, belly showing or not, so the whole thing is meh for me.

[Ophie-Mio]

I'm female and I completely disagree with you, as well as everyone else in this thread who keeps insisting that revealing attire is misogynistic.

I am not saying that revealing attire by itself is misogynistic. I am saying that Reimu's perspective of me "dealing with it" and that I should be grateful that a man wants to look at my body because a man deserves his eye-candy is misogynistic.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

This is not a reason.

It IS a reason, whether you like it or not. There is a DEMAND for this, entire GAMES revolve around this idea, as there is a market for it. It is LITERALLY a reason, no matter how you prefer to call it.

...this is the most misogynistic crap I have ever seen.

I feel sorry for you. You clearly lack the ability to discern true sexism from the usual, useless "feminist" propaganda.

Men like to watch women. Women like to watch men. It's how humans are built. Deal with it, as things are NOT changing anytime soon, I can guarantee you that.

[Teryaani]

I am not saying that revealing attire by itself is misogynistic. I am saying that Reimu's perspective of me dealing with it and that I should be grateful that man wants to look at my body because a man deserves his eye-candy is misogynistic.

I got what you were saying. The bit you quoted made me cringe a little.

[Amused]

I am not saying that revealing attire by itself is misogynistic. I am saying that Reimu's perspective of me "dealing with it" and that I should be grateful that a man wants to look at my body because a man deserves his eye-candy is misogynistic.

This is just "stop liking what I don't like".

[Riepah]

...this is the most misogynistic crap I have ever seen.

If that's really the worst you've seen, why are you making such a fuss? That was quite harmless, really, as far as the internet goes.

Anyway, what exactly is your issue? There are revealing sets in the game, for both genders, and there are non-revealing ones, also for both genders. Why don't you wear what you want to wear and let others wear what they want to wear? What's wrong with some sets being sexier or more revealing than others?

[Ophie-Mio]

This is just "stop liking what I don't like".

It seems that so far only you and Reimu are the ones who actually think his quote is in any way perfectly fine. How my response to his and your post comes off as "I don't like it so WAH!" is completely beyond me now. Have fun sitting in front of Reimu in a bikini BECAUSE he deserves to look at your half naked body because it's what he likes. Be grateful that you should be looked at.

Anyway, what exactly is your issue? There are revealing sets in the game, for both genders, and there are non-revealing ones, also for both genders. Why don't you wear what you want to wear and let others wear what they want to wear? What's wrong with some sets being sexier or more revealing than others?

I WANT people to wear what they want to wear. That's the fucking point. If they want the sexier outfits, let them have it. BUT you can't design an outfit one way and then give me the same outfit and my tits are hanging out and have it be okay.
If this game made a sexy section of clothing, I wouldn't care! I just want the choice of it when attire is specifically changed for women.
And before people think I want the original changed or taken out, I don't! I want an added option for the male version!

[Zedd702]

Dis thread is still going?

Sexism, eye-candy, feminism, chivalry, goo etc etc...

Seriously guys, there is no reason to really discuss those topics. They're kinda irrelevant to the whole point of what the majority of you are trying to get across regarding the dragoon armor, which really was NOT the original topic of the thread, but eh.

This whole thread really derailed from a very very VERY vague OP. He did not really specify which gear he was talking about, but most assumed it to be the Dragoon armor, where as others addressed what his post was "All" gear for both sexes...

As I stated before I'm all for options, but to request that they remove the original product, will definitely summon yet another thread, like this one demanding they want the original back.

This is really nothing to argue over. Request they add an option to cover the stomach for those of you that don't like it, while leaving the option for those that do like the original to keep it. It's really THAT simple!