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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    If you can't afford to straight up buy a Supra, you don't have enough gil to act as seed money to craft 4* anyway, thus you don't need a Supra.
    She does have a point. I did the math on 4-star crafting a long time ago and came to the conclusion that not only did I not have enough gil to go all the way with it, but it also wasn't worth that much gil if I did have it. I've been waiting patiently, gearing through poetics, and making money as if 4-star didn't exist.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    If you can't accept that part of RNG is part of high level crafting now, stop crafting.
    You clearly do not see anything being posted here as anything other than "Wah wah gimme stuff" so either read the posts or expect nobody to care what you're saying.
    Also
    You know who gets to tell me what I can do in this game?
    Not you.
    I pay just as much as money as you do to play
    If I think they screwed the pooch on something, I have a right to complain.
    The only one that needs to deal with it here is you and other likeminded folk.
    You clearly do not give a damn what anyone here has to say.
    You do not get to tell me what I should and should not be doing while playing.
    You have absolutely 0 ground to do that.
    I decide what content I do or do not like
    I decide what I want to complain about.
    I decide what I think needs to be changed.
    You don't.
    If I decide I think something should be nerfed because it was either poorly designed or doesn't mesh well with new stuff, I'm gonna say so, and the only thing you can do is deal with it.
    Because I'm not gonna stop crafting just because you tell me I don't have enough money.
    You do not get to make that decision and you never will.
    And while I respect your right to your opinion, if you're telling me I just shouldn't attempt something because you don't think I'm hardcore enough, I am going to wholly ignore your opinion.
    Because your opinion is patronizing and awful.
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    Last edited by TheodoreMcIntyre; 12-04-2014 at 12:02 PM.

  3. #43
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    excessive use of newline
    I happen to like the way crafting is now, with an element of risk that means HQ is no longer 100% in addition to having to work to unlock new recipes. I'm offering a counter that things are fine the way they are.

    Also, based on your lodestone you aren't even capable of doing 3* (at least on LTW, and based on your not-max melded accessories, not on any other craft either...) so why do you care about mastercraft demi again? They are only required for meeting 4* requirements.
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    Last edited by Ellatrix; 12-04-2014 at 12:06 PM.

  4. #44
    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
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    Thank you for ignoring literally everything I said and continuing to be patronizing for absolutely no good reason at all.
    No, my LTW isn't capable of 3 stars. Every other craft is. I decided not to Artisan my LTW because nothing LTW makes was appealing to me.
    I want the Mastercraft Demimateria because I want the new Artisan gear and to get Supras for my CUL and WVR, which very much are capable of 3 star crafting.
    So don't assume I don't need them, or don't want them, not that it's relevant anyway.
    with an element of risk that means HQ is no longer 100%
    It's not the recipes I'm complaining about, and if you had bothered to actually read a single post of mine you'd know that.
    It's getting the demimateria to get the gear to try and get back on the steep crafting curve that SE has put in that I'm concerned with. Because after I hit 3 star on most of my crafts, I stopped caring and got behind with advancing them.
    Now I would like to get back to it, but I can't because the implementation of the Demimateria and Desynthesis system was so horribly thought out by SE that it's created an awful wall that's a serious, expensive pain in the ass to get over with no signs of nerfing it appropriately like they do other content and I don't even know why I bother typing this because you're not even reading it anyway.
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    Last edited by TheodoreMcIntyre; 12-04-2014 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    Now I would like to get back to it, but I can't because the implementation of the Demimateria and Desynthesis system was so horribly thought out by SE that it's created an awful wall that's a serious, expensive pain in the ass to get over with no signs of nerfing it
    That the point, you *Can*, but you can't be bothered, which is fair enough, but why ask for "Master Crafting" to be nerfed?

    FCIII did impact the ammount of Mastercraft demi's, because there used to be a lot more people desynthing the glasses in order to get FCIII, Mastercrafts were far cheaper than FCIII.

    I do think some other classes should be able to get them, I don't think they should be handed out to everyone like FCIII's were.
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  6. #46
    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
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    35 successfully desynthed Artisan glasses is what you call "can't be bothered"?
    That's
    pretty insulting, actually.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    35 successfully desynthed Artisan glasses is what you call "can't be bothered"?
    That's
    pretty insulting, actually.
    I'm not gonna say it means you can't be bothered, but 35 is a pretty low number. Anyone that has supplied all their own mastercraft has probably done hundreds. I know i've personally done about 300ish give or take.
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    Last edited by Rocond; 12-04-2014 at 01:12 PM.

  8. #48
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    I just wanna thrown in a lil personal irritation about "RNG" in this game.

    Artisan Offhand, 92% HQ chance... NQ...
    Okay, seriously... every time... every f*ckin time that something is above 90% but below 100%, it almost always NQ's... Its like when you get to 90%, your HQ chance becomes 10*(Chance-90)... so a "92% chance" is ACTUALLY MORE LIKE 20 F*CKIN 20%.

    On the other hand... they actually didnt f*ck up Artisan body pieces with the HQ bullshit... You can reach the stat caps with an NQ Artisan body piece using 5 melds, 3 of which are guaranteed... Now THAT is good. That is something where if RNG decides to say F*UCK YOU Mr. 92% CHANCE! you still get an item that CAN be just as good as the HQ version, but for more effort.

    Sadly the VAST... VAST majority of items are HQ or bust.
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 12-04-2014 at 01:14 PM.

  9. #49
    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocond View Post
    I'm not gonna say it means you can't be bothered, but 35 is a pretty low number. Anyone that has supplied all their own mastercraft has probably done hundreds. I know i've personally done about 300ish give or take.
    If you're telling me I've gotta do hundreds of them just to get one Mastercraft Demimateria, because so far I've gotten none and that's what I was trying to get across in that post, then, yeah, I think I should probably just give up now because that's not in any way worth it.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    If you're telling me I've gotta do hundreds of them just to get one Mastercraft Demimateria, because so far I've gotten none and that's what I was trying to get across in that post, then, yeah, I think I should probably just give up now because that's not in any way worth it.
    If that's how you feel, then yeah. I know I certainly don't like to do things that I don't feel are worth it.
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