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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    The dungeon is a breeze when everybody paid attention and knew it.
    ^ That's a very important piece to your response. With topics like these, people can go in having an understanding. Coming into someone's topic just to bust their chops about a set-up, when they're providing information for people, makes you a troll...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    What do you expect? You're saying stuff like this:

    Says who? The only people claiming it to be "easy mode" are those failing to provide any evidence of completion. Meanwhile, all of the decent linkshells are respectful enough to post information they have in regards to the instance. So if you're gonna run into someone's helpful topic to condescend to them about how "this is easy mode" and "youre using this set-up" etc, etc, then yea... you're gonna met with equal aggression. /shrug.
    Says pple on the forums JP and NA, and also my own experience when i embarrassed myself a couple times when i tried to make a setup like that and was hinted if i was even capable of running this dungeon with that mindset. At first i thought it was limited to just a few on the forums maybe but then stumbled ingame to a particular group of initial dungeon members picking at the idea. I noticed the idea (about easy) was not so limited when it happened a second time with another group)
    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    ^ That's a very important piece to your response. With topics like these, people can go in having an understanding. Coming into someone's topic just to bust their chops about a set-up, when they're providing information for people, makes you a troll...
    Having an understanding does not equal jumping on any post that does not praise and admire you. You need to understand that part. A discussion is something where each side throws in ideas but also be able to catch the others and contemplate on theirs too. Not just throw, and swat the incoming if it doesnt suit your tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    Says pple on the forums JP and NA, and also my own experience when i embarrassed myself a couple times when i tried to make a setup like that and was hinted if i was even capable of running this dungeon with that mindset. At first i thought it was limited to just a few on the forums maybe but then stumbled ingame to a particular group of initial dungeon members picking at the idea. I noticed the idea (about easy) was not so limited when it happened a second time with another group)

    Having an understanding does not equal jumping on any post that does not praise and admire you. You need to understand that part. A discussion is something where each side throws in ideas but also be able to catch the others and contemplate on theirs too. Not just throw, and swat the incoming if it doesnt suit your tastes.
    You're taking certain things out of context here. It's fine if you provide some constructive criticism, but again, jumping into a thread claiming things are easy, or shouldn't be done that way, without any information to support the theory/idea/etc, it provides no discussion whatsoever, just a baseless comment. It's only bickering and nonsense.

    You're agruing with me about something I'm not even commenting about, so I'm unsure why you are even mentioning some of this stuff. I don't care if people praise or condemn, so long as it's constructive.

    Also, I know very well what a discussion is, and making that statement goes against what you were saying in your previous post (see; snide remarks). So if you want to take a walk down this road, I'd be more than happy to start dictating definitions to you as well, seeing as how you missed responding to any of my valid points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    You're taking certain things out of context here. It's fine if you provide some constructive criticism, but again, jumping into a thread claiming things are easy, or shouldn't be done that way, without any information to support the theory/idea/etc, it provides no discussion whatsoever, just a baseless comment. It's only bickering and nonsense.
    Not really. Have you not realized that my post is just answering yours? My initial post was a comment in response to why a certain person might be feeling how he is. Apparently pple didnt like anyone even remotely trying to explain for him and pple including you immediately jumped in and nitpicked pieces on a comment.
    From there i had to go on to explain why i said what i said, and its come to the point where i can lay out all what i hear and seen but your just complaining for the sake of complaining cause you dont like what you see. Its as if your asking for some kinda big theory, on a casual comment that no one would even question irl (well at most roll their eyes),
    (ex: boys are stinky!! girls are chatterboxes!)
    and ive tried to keep my posts sarcasm free and explain as best as i can even with the snide comebacks. >_>;;

    You're agruing with me about something I'm not even commenting about, so I'm unsure why you are even mentioning some of this stuff. I don't care if people praise or condemn, so long as it's constructive.
    im just replying to what your posting is all. >.>;
    Also, I know very well what a discussion is, and making that statement goes against what you were saying in your previous post (see; snide remarks). So if you want to take a walk down this road, I'd be more than happy to start dictating definitions to you as well, seeing as how you missed responding to any of my valid points.
    ...um no.. im just replying to what your posting is all. Your just blowing it out of proportion and over reacting <_<; i did reply to what you said but i cant help you if you dont want to accept that answer =/ i cant keep on giving you unlimited answers so that one may fit your tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    your just complaining for the sake of complaining cause you dont like what you see.
    ^
    That's different from complaining about someone's class set-up.... how? You're defending someone for something, while condemning another for, apparently, the same act. Tsk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    Apparently pple didnt like anyone even remotely trying to explain for him and pple including you immediately jumped in and nitpicked pieces on a comment.
    You responded to my comment first sir, and only part of it at that, I'd suggest taking your own advice.

    Now, I understand you said earlier that you were JP, and I'm not saying this to be rude, but you clearly do not understand what I'm telling you. So at that, I bid this conversation adieu.
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