Should there be another healing job?

[Mirron]

Class with guns is likely going to be the healer. And yeah, there is a lot of DPS and DoW in general, hoping that things balance out a bit. But guessing we'll see a DoM Tank out of Dark Knight and a DoW healer out of the gun job.

But there definitely should be more healers. If nothing else it's a fun change of pace for existing healers, and may get new healers to try it out.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I'm hoping for a Red Mage myself, rather than a "gun healer". Although Red Mage would have to stem off from Gladiator, unless they're making rapiers it's own weapon class.

[DarkmoonVael]

It has been confirmed for a long time that the expansion will bring at least a new healer and tank, so this can mean dps will be added as well or more than one healer/tank.

But yes, yes and yes again. This game desperatly needs another healer that starts from lvl 1 as a healer.

[Cynfael]

I'm hoping for a Red Mage myself, rather than a "gun healer". Although Red Mage would have to stem off from Gladiator, unless they're making rapiers it's own weapon class.

I'd prefer a Red Mage healer as well. Magical healers appeal to me much more than tactical/martial or even alchemical ones.

At this rate I wouldn't be at all surprised to see RDM as a stand-alone Job like DRK was announced to be. Very curious to see what happens when they finally give us RDM. Guessing that they'll A) have overhauled the Role system by then; B) enforce a strict Black/White/Martial stance system for RDM; C) make RDM fairly bad at everything; or D) make the Job way too good at everything.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I'd prefer a Red Mage healer as well. Magical healers appeal to me much more than tactical/martial or even alchemical ones.

If they're sticking to the class->job system, I'm guessing it'll start off as a fencer. And I'm also guessing that Red Mage would have en-spells for auto attacks, but healing/supportive spells mainly (grey magic?) and be in melee range to be an off-dps healer, much like how Scholar is now. But hard to tell with FF14, considering the only classes who actually follow the FF14 class/job meta to the dot are White Mage and Black Mage. While every other generic FF-class (Paladin and Summoner especially) are quite different.

If Red Mage is going to be melee, it'll probably end up as the new loldrg and people tell them to stand far away so they don't die



edit: Not even Black Mage, now that I think about it. They only have three elements in FF14

[Yumi_umi]

Ofc there should be another healer but the thing is, it'll break the happy bond between schs and whm.
The new healer can't :
-be a bursty healer as it'll compete with whm.
- have a pet(s) as it'll compete with sch.
-have aoe shields as it will be just another sch = compete lol

What it can have :
-Highest dps output out of the healers = what's the point as its a healer and not a Dps.
-lots of buffs = why have a bard

But it makes a lot of points moot as if it can't perform 1 role significantly better than the other class then whats the point of bringing it to ur party if a whm or sch can do it better.

So this is gonna be a very tricky one for SE to tackle.
But it'll probs work out if they overhaul the jobs in the expansion and think of something new.

[Cynfael]

The healer archetypes that we don't have covered already include the vampiric healer (e.g. heal party by inflicting damage to enemies and/or by buffing party members with lifesteal) and the battle cleric (e.g. most combat actions buff party members to increase damage dealt and decrease damage received while applying HoTs and limited burst heals).

The challenge with either of these is that, more so than with SCH and WHM, a bad party can wreck your attempts to support them. Lifesteal isn't very effective when players can't maintain DPS, and buffs don't help much when damage received is high and damage output is low.

That being said, a healer that doesn't carry scrub parties but synergizes beautifully with skilled ones might be worth exploring.

[Jamez82]

Yeah I'm hoping for a vamiric healer.

[Mirron]

I sincerely doubt it'll be Red Mage unless you're expecting the Red Mages to use guns. Which there has been some concept art of them with pistols, so I suppose that's possible, but immensely doubtful.

It's also doubtful that we'll see branching jobs at all, or possibly even classes. Dark Knight having only a job makes it likely that from here on out we're only going to be getting jobs, no classes, though how exactly that'll work is still up in the air of course. That and there isn't anything wrong with Rapiers being their own weapon, Greatswords got to be their own after all.

Also kind of doubting Red Mage as a healer, since even though it has healing abilities I think that making it more of a Enspell specialist works better, gives it a mage feeling while still being melee. But it's all kind of moot right now, Red Mage probably isn't coming for a while now, at least not until the first patch since Dark Knight and gun healer are probably the only new jobs we're getting. I could be wrong though, I just feel like those two got the focus currently. I'd really like to see more new jobs than just two myself.

[Cynfael]

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Willing to bet that there will be at least one more Job beyond those that have been hinted.

Whether or not RDM is one of them, who knows? However, I do agree that the gun-wielding Job is unlikely to be it.