So about the clipping on Longcoats/Robes

[Sadana]

Sorry. Aggravation with this has come up many times before here. I don't like it either, but have adjusted because I understand why it's present.

The more-recent response:

Greetings,

This is similar to what we said in the past, but I would like to reiterate it for those who may have missed it.

Fundamentally, we are prioritizing the introduction of equipment in a large variety of designs, regardless of whether or not they may have clipping issues or overlap with certain equipment or characters. Due to this, we will not be making any adjustments to the dresses. However, in extreme cases there may be instances where we will make changes.

Btw, I am rocking the Crescent Moon Nightgown as my tank body, and nothing compares to how dapper it makes me look.

What was "said in the past":

Greetings,

When it comes to introducing new hairstyles and gear, we’ve been placing a lot of focus on creating diversity and our highest priority is to continue to introduce new varieties going forward.

We understand the concerns about gear and hairstyle clipping; however, if we were to stick to designs that ensure that there is no clipping then it would limit the types of equipment we were able to create. Due to this the development team has decided to continue putting the designs ahead of the concerns about clipping.

I even made fun of it in the Draw your Character! thread:

omg, you guys are right! Everyone CAN draw!



Complete with collar clipping through hair! Tru2Lyf!! XD

[RiceisNice]

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The problem I see in those replies is that things like the ironworks represent the opposite of "variety of designs" when they reuse models between classes/roles. And what bothers me the most is that while they're detailed enough to follow physics, it's not consistent with the race/gender combinations (back to the example that this doesn't happen with female miqo'tes).

Don't get me wrong; I'd rather have the game functioning above all else, but that sort of thing just makes me inadequate playing a female hyur (only other reasonable option being a male roegadyn)...as if there's favoritism with aesthetics... *tinfoil mask*

Edit : On that note though, would height or proportions have any influence to reduce clipping? I still have a fantasia that I've been considering to use...which brings me ot my next question; when I use the fantasia to enter the character edit, can I back pedal and not use it, or do I have to go through with it?

[Sadana]

things like the ironworks represent the opposite of "variety of designs" when they reuse models between classes/roles. And what bothers me the most is that while they're detailed enough to follow physics, it's not consistent with the race/gender combinations (back to the example that this doesn't happen with female miqo'tes).

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They're still new... even if you don't like them or think it's "enough". I think the point is that we could have ANY new gear or we could have a couple sets that are perfect. The first quote I copied, Grekumah's, was from a thread about very specific clipping issues that only happened with one race. He pointed out in his comment that this could be seen as a bug. If this is the case with new gear and is not ye olde complaint of hair/weapon/leg clipping that is seen on everyone, then this can be reported as a legitimate problem.

[RiceisNice]

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It's just how I view it. I don't like how people will say "We want to focus on making new designs..." and in the end pump out designs for some gear that's shared between 2 classes at the minimum while at the same time have an issue with clipping (with certain race/genders or not). And at the last part, as I've mentioned I've seen my leg clip through some robes and long skirts, while that's not the case for a female miqo'te. Can't comment on the kirimu coat because I don't know of anyone that has a female miqo'te at level 50 bard who I can also trust to let them try on the coat, but I can attest to this as far as robes (that reach down to your feet) and the spring/plain skirt is concerned. There's also a matter if that problem you mentioned earlier was ever addressed or just really really low on the priority list (which is understandable, but doesn't justify following this trend 2 major content patches later)

And another thing is while they admit that they don't want this to limit the amount of creativity or design just to avoid clipping, it doesn't mean they should slam into it face first either (making it overly long or bulky for example.)

[KaedrianLiang]

I know this is necro'ing the post but it has to be said! They recently made massive improvements to the body collision to long robes/skirts while moving. Particularly the culprit where your feet go straight though your robe/skirt while running and sprinting. Check it out!

I think they snuck it in witht he most recent hotfix without saying anything. GJ Dev team.

improvements, not 100% fixed i would say 95% fixed as you see a little bit of certain boots and armor combinations still clip through the skirt, but only slightly. Far less an eyesore compared to the before where the whole leg would go through the skirt. amirite?