2.4 SMN Class Issues

[Ardan]

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Nobody likes Akiza because:

1) Makes factual statements without proof.
2) Jumps from one argument to the next.
3) Constantly makes suggestions that would, pretty much, retcon the entire story and lore of the game.
4) Makes suggestions that would hinder the balance of other jobs, just to make SMN reign supreme.

There's probably more points I can make and quotes I can pull from his history. Seriously though, it's not even worth the effort anymore. Defending him on anything at this point is pretty much a death sentence on your credibility. He has over 600 posts worth of nothing but gibberish, all in English, mostly readable and understandable. Sift though the sea of Akiza's post history if you're that sure he's not being clear.

[Deliciou5]

Nobody likes Akiza because:

1) Makes factual statements without proof.
2) Jumps from one argument to the next.
3) Constantly makes suggestions that would, pretty much, retcon the entire story and lore of the game.
4) Makes suggestions that would hinder the balance of other jobs, just to make SMN reign supreme.

There's probably more points I can make and quotes I can pull from his history. Seriously though, it's not even worth the effort anymore. Defending him on anything at this point is pretty much a death sentence on your credibility. He has over 600 posts worth of nothing but gibberish, all in English, mostly readable and understandable. Sift though the sea of Akiza's post history if you're that sure he's not being clear.

1. Sometimes yes cannot refute that. However how can anyone prove half of the things people say about this game?
2. Like i said before not really a big deal, just wish akiza would explain each idea a little better with more well thought out posts.
3. Ret-conning happens all the time for all forms of media, ret-conning could easily be just further expounding upon by a preexisting idea to explain the new changes. Akiza ill admit does not respect lore much, but you have to talk about your ideas from a gameplay standpoint before you can fit them in lore more often than not. It's just easier.
4.I need examples or citatations on this one since you see to making a factual statment without proof...see item 1 of your own list.
I do not doubt you, but i rather see an example what you would consider an idea gone too far. Otherwise you are no better honestly.

Am i defending akiza? Maybe a little, but i also criticizing him at the same time. I am just giving akiza the benefit of the doubt, i will explain to him why his ideas might be wrong... as well as support idea in more detail that i agree with. Not really taking sides here just being more objective than most.

Seems opinions are more important to a good portion of people on this forum than discussion.

It's sad you rather talk about people than ideas, you are really derailing the thread yourself at this point considering akiza hasn't even posted in it. Ironic.

Even if most of akiza's posts are jibberish i rather not act like an arsehole just because i think so. Respect is far better than what you spout. I am simply playing devil's advocate here because i seen far too many people bash akiza's unnecessarily, and it's honestly gotta stop. More constructive criticism and less aggressive condescending remarks.

[Ardan]

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I wasn't even trying and found this.

This one was free. You can find the rest yourself in his history.