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    ...OP you fail to understand that not every class needs to have equal damage output to be good DPSers.

    Bards get to move nonstop, and DPS 100% of the time. They have no positional requirements, don't need to deal with melee nonsense, and can boost other's DPS by a great amount. Don't you wonder why so many people play bard? Because it's so damn easy and a good DPS, maybe?

    You need to realize that the value of a DPS is not only based on what they can parse by hitting a training dummy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterSolstice View Post
    ...OP you fail to understand that not every class needs to have equal damage output to be good DPSers.

    Bards get to move nonstop, and DPS 100% of the time. They have no positional requirements, don't need to deal with melee nonsense, and can boost other's DPS by a great amount. Don't you wonder why so many people play bard? Because it's so damn easy and a good DPS, maybe?

    You need to realize that the value of a DPS is not only based on what they can parse by hitting a training dummy.
    I don't know why people think playing melee and needing positioning is so hard.

    If adding positioning requirements to Bard is what it takes to SE to buff it's damage then be it.

    Also they play it because it's easy and because of the utility, but we are the dps job that loses dps in order to use that utility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Nonsense etc.
    Nobody said positionals were hard. However when you have to deal with the least amount of mechanics compared to every other class in every other fight...yeah you have it easy.

    "I want to stroke my epeen by seeing a bigger number. I want other people to see me higher on the aggro meter. I want all the utility of a bard with the damage of a NIN."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterSolstice View Post
    Nobody said positionals were hard. However when you have to deal with the least amount of mechanics compared to every other class in every other fight...yeah you have it easy.

    "I want to stroke my epeen by seeing a bigger number. I want other people to see me higher on the aggro meter. I want all the utility of a bard with the damage of a NIN."

    Tell me what do you know about dealing with mechanics? Because your lodestone says you have like barely no experience in raid. If you knew anything about raids you wouldn't say that we have to deal with less mechanics when it's almost always Bards being asigned to deal with most of them lol.

    And stuff like t11 even forces us to be in melee range to even be able to hit and that disables our ability to use repelling shot and that's another loss of dps.
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    Last edited by Rose-Wild; 11-13-2014 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterSolstice View Post
    Nobody said positionals were hard. However when you have to deal with the least amount of mechanics compared to every other class in every other fight...yeah you have it easy.
    I don't quite understand how you think BRD deals with the least amount of mechanics, just because they can attack and move at the same time doesn't mean it's ideal, bard loses its auto-attack damage while not facing the monsters. At the end of the day bards still have to move out of the shit, they just get to keep pressing buttons while they do it.

    Also, in my experience BRD usually gets stuck doing silences and dealing with mechanics that require lots of movement while others get to just keep doing what they're doing. Essentially bard is the go to guy for pretty much any mechanics that don't require an entire party to handle.

    While I don't agree that bard needs a strict DPS increase, something like increasing dps by a small percentage when you haven't been moving for say.. 5 seconds, would be a nice touch considering every other DPS class is getting buffed and so far bard has only received nerfs. The fact is in the numbers, on average a good nin or mnk will be 100-150 dps higher, a good blm, smn or drg will be 75-100 dps higher. The gap increases further when bards actually have to play a song besides Foes.

    Yes, it's an easy class to play but 100 dps is a large gap in this game and a buff that's only active a fraction of the time isn't going to close that gap, it will only make it slightly smaller.
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