DRG has been broken for far too long. Fix it SE

[Starkbeaumont]

DRGs buffing Brds is not the best argument, since classes should be balanced on their own and not depended on a certain setup. even with BRD being almost a must have for serious raiding. Hence BRDs should get a dmg buff imo.
For DRGs it would already help to get rid of Heavy Thrust's positional requirement, so your rotation doesn't get thrown off if missed and change something about the synergy when you end up with more than one DRG.

What could be done without changing too much regarding potencies and the general way the class works, is to just switch Disembowl and Heavy Thrust. Make Heavy Thrust part of the Chaos thrust combo while having Disembowl separated. (flank requirement could go to Disembowl, before ppl shout it is too easy now). In the case of more than one DRG, only one of them would have to care about Disembowl.

Also one simple thing that always annoyed me is that better Invigorate should mean better TP management, but in the end DRGs starve for TP as much as the other melee do in a long fight...

[Fayto]

Also one simple thing that always annoyed me is that better Invigorate should mean better TP management, but in the end DRGs starve for TP as much as the other melee do in a long fight...

That is because their abilities have a high TP cost for no reason.

[Warlyx]

DRGs buffing Brds is not the best argument, since classes should be balanced on their own and not depended on a certain setup. even with BRD being almost a must have for serious raiding. Hence BRDs should get a dmg buff imo.
For DRGs it would already help to get rid of Heavy Thrust's positional requirement, so your rotation doesn't get thrown off if missed and change something about the synergy when you end up with more than one DRG.

What could be done without changing too much regarding potencies and the general way the class works, is to just switch Disembowl and Heavy Thrust. Make Heavy Thrust part of the Chaos thrust combo while having Disembowl separated. (flank requirement could go to Disembowl, before ppl shout it is too easy now). In the case of more than one DRG, only one of them would have to care about Disembowl.

Also one simple thing that always annoyed me is that better Invigorate should mean better TP management, but in the end DRGs starve for TP as much as the other melee do in a long fight...

this guy gets it.

If u balance around having NIN AND DRG for brd u are doing it wrong

same goes for NIN WAR combo so nin can avoid using dancing edge

or caster + brd


Drgs need QoL changes

Brd a boost on single target (blabla mp regen blabla foe ) doble bard on sastasha hard is a pain (no DPS LB) and the lowest dmg of all the dps ( yeah i know a brd that does more dmg than a random mnk )

Mnks dunno but GL is annoying ,but the same could be said about mudras and server lag (i rage everytime i see the rabbit when i know it wasnt my fault )

Blms : let them move and cast the next spell while surecast dammit

Smn : make contagion a spell >.> bane doesnt use charges but has a 30s cd?

[Lithera]

Also one simple thing that always annoyed me is that better Invigorate should mean better TP management, but in the end DRGs starve for TP as much as the other melee do in a long fight...

Learn to manage TP...and lay off on the Skill Speed...lol...really though the reason Invigorate isn't more potent is because of our AoE capability. We can already spam RoT/Doom Spike constantly with Invigorate use longer than most other DPS can sustain AoE damage.

[ChaozK]

We can already spam RoT/Doom Spike constantly with Invigorate use longer than most other DPS can sustain AoE damage.

Thats not true at all. BRD, WAR, NIN and MNK all can sustain their AoE longer than DRG, assuming you are dealing max dmg with doomspike spam (lolRoT).

Its basically DRG>BRD>WAR>NIN>MNK when it comes to AoE costs (which is fair because thats also somewhat how the AOE dps ranks).