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    Fated Erskine
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    Dragoon is still a strong DPS and is the ONLY melee with good AoE (yes, there is more in this game than single target raids). The whole NIN bandwagon crap will end pretty soon once people realize they can't play the job optimally. MNK is better in terms of single target DPS, but again MNK AoE is only better with Perfect Balance and is subpar otherwise.

    This is far from WAR 2.0. That was a legitimate disconnect in balance where one option was completely superior in every single way compared to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    Dragoon is still a strong DPS and is the ONLY melee with good AoE (yes, there is more in this game than single target raids). The whole NIN bandwagon crap will end pretty soon once people realize they can't play the job optimally. MNK is better in terms of single target DPS, but again MNK AoE is only better with Perfect Balance and is subpar otherwise.

    This is far from WAR 2.0. That was a legitimate disconnect in balance where one option was completely superior in every single way compared to the other.
    I have to disagree with you there. At the least, WAR was always the higher DPS option of the two tanks, both by itself and with the Storm's Eye debuff affecting both tanks, so there was at least fair merit to bringing PLD + WAR. Many groups chose PLD + PLD anyway which was fine but there was still reason to bring WAR.

    NIN is just on another level to DRG in every single way. It is not even funny. NIN ...

    - Bursts harder. Say hello to 4K+ immediate damage within a few seconds and a 10% raid buff while everyone's at their strongest ...
    - Sustains for quite a bit more DPS. This is easily counting the BRD buff, and I play with very, very strong BRDs who can do 450+ solo. Even that getting a 10% buff can't make up for NIN's sustained + raid buff. NIN is above 500 before the raid buff, no problem. DRG can't even dream of this without more than i110 gear.
    - Has more survivability. Less reliance on B4B (DRG B4B is so strong it's very bad to throttle it, and when you do you lose out on a bit of DPS even further) and required positionals, no lock-up animations like Jump, a free physical dodge, no TERRIBLE MDEF which yes matters - recently in our T12 progression we had trouble keeping DRG up during the Flames of Rebirth, not the tanks, and I hear T13's even worse
    - Isn't reliant on positionals 99% of the time. DRG becomes just terrible, the absolute worst if you miss a positional, it's a huge potency loss and it delays your combo further - also, multiple mechanics in Final Coil really demand certain positioning which will hurt your combo hard
    - Pretty sure NIN even wins in the AoE department in real encounters. 100 potency every 2s with an auto-crit 240 potency Doton (effectively 360 potency) and 180 potency once every 20s. Besides the potency, it's just plain easy to do and consistent to hit everything - DRG has to Heavy Thrust and then do a thin line AoE to do its max damage, and I don't care how good you are, you're going to miss at the least a small part of the mobs with how thin the line is.

    Let's not even go into how ... NIN lasts 6m+ without any Army's Paeon or Goad, NIN can give a free Invigorate to anyone it wants in the form of Goad, its Mercy Stroke equivalent is on a 40s timer compared to 90s Mercy Stroke, it moves faster than DRG, it has a teleport which you don't have to throttle for a bit to help movement like DRG, NIN gives a free Storm's Eye equivalent for tanks so you can keep perma-Storm's Path up, and NIN's DPS even benefits a bit from Foe's Requiem ...

    So yeah. It's bad for DRG right now. They're worthless compared to NIN, side by side.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 11-09-2014 at 04:59 PM.