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  1. #51
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I wish I could see the robe paired with the Allagan cane from T5. I know it looks great with the scholar book.
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  2. #52
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    Syrehn's Avatar
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I wish I could see the robe paired with the Allagan cane from T5. I know it looks great with the scholar book.
    Ask and ye shall receive (tried to grab a few different angles). :P










    My personal fav's is pairing the coat with the Thyrus staff (these pics don't really do the glowy awesomeness justice)



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    Last edited by Syrehn; 11-07-2014 at 09:37 AM.

  3. #53
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    AutoraLux's Avatar
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    Aurora Lux
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    Love the new robe... except the battery pack on the back... if they removed that pouch it would be perfect
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  4. #54
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    Rhel Azura
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    Thaumaturge Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLordCthulhu View Post
    stacking crit mindlessly is pretty dumb. After a certain threshold you have diminishing returns as u need a lot more crit to move on the next tier of crit %. All these ppl saying i have crit over 9000 r funny. Thats cool and all, but whats your DET look like?
    Im getting the ironworks robe first for my SCH. The increase MND-VIT are well worth the loss in crit.

    i110 BiS SCH full crit build is 561 crit - 263 Det

    I would much rather take a mix build that has me around ~500 crit/ ~300 Det. Heals will hit A LOT harder and crit only about 1-2% less than full crit build.

    With my mixed build set my physick hits for 1300+ (Non crit). GL reaching that at i110 with full crit build
    Okay, see the problem with what you are saying is that det is literally a shit stat. You get more out of 1 main stat than you do 15 det. Crit on the other hand stacks quite nicely. As a reference I stated i have 600 crit chance which adds up to 23.3% crit. Crit chance for anything that relies on big numbers will always reign supreme. Even though base damage/base healing may be higher by increasing det or main stat, critting more often weighs far heavier. If you can Crit 1/4 of all your casts you are getting far more out of your slightly lower base than you would with 15% crit
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    Alta Kelma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    Agreed! The Poetics gear looks awesome

    If we could remove the ugly orange square it could be a great looking armor!
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    Compagnie libre Storm, serveur Ragnarok
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  6. #56
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    Imakun's Avatar
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    Eeri Yul'hart
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I wish robes for males were a little more on the elegant side. For example, instead of leaving it as it is for both gender, why not cut open the robe in the front for males? So it can look more like half a robe and half a tuxedo or something.

    But in general I wish the team would be a bit more original with mage equip designs.. we don't have to wear robes and gowns all the time you know :\
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  7. #57
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    DarkLordCthulhu's Avatar
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    Effy Stoneheart
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Im not saying stack Det over Crit. But after a certain threshold Crit is not worth stacking because you would need a substantial amount of crit to increase your crit % by 1. You cant count on critting a spell so steadier more powerful heals r better. And when your spell does crit its gonna crit for a lot more because of the extra Det. The difference in full crit and mixed det/crit build is only around 2-3%.

    But watever, keep on getting carried by your WHM
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  8. #58
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLordCthulhu View Post
    Im not saying stack Det over Crit. But after a certain threshold Crit is not worth stacking because you would need a substantial amount of crit to increase your crit % by 1. You cant count on critting a spell so steadier more powerful heals r better. And when your spell does crit its gonna crit for a lot more because of the extra Det. The difference in full crit and mixed det/crit build is only around 2-3%.

    But watever, keep on getting carried by your WHM

    WHM on 369 det (592 mind with party bonus):

     You recover 1372 HP.
     You recover 1322 HP.
     You recover 1358 HP.
     You recover 1374 HP.
     You recover 1313 HP.

    -  Critical! You recover 2054 HP.
    -  Critical! You recover 1963 HP.
    -  Critical! You recover 2020 HP.

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    SCH on 572 crit, 301 det (586 mind with party bonus):

     You recover 1362 HP.
     You recover 1342 HP.
     You recover 1318 HP.
     You recover 1303 HP.
     You recover 1320 HP.

    -  Critical! You recover 2025 HP.
    -  Critical! You recover 1970 HP.
    -  Critical! You recover 1944 HP.

    Such difference, much carry! wow! ._. I even had to remove 5 lines because they crited :3

    Edit: Added the crit logs. It took me forever to just get 3 crits on whm. and only 4 physicks to get 3 crits on sch.
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    Last edited by Edeline; 11-08-2014 at 03:08 AM.

  9. #59
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    DarkLordCthulhu's Avatar
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    Effy Stoneheart
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    why r u comparing whm vs sch? Wat im talking about is different sch builds

    The "keep getting carried" part was just in there for the lolz
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  10. #60
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLordCthulhu View Post
    ~snip~
    Naw not really. Not sure who told ya Crit has diminishing returns but it doesn't in this game, it's straight gains so its safe to stack to your hearts content. Also you're severely underestimating the crit loss while overstating how much more powerful Det makes your heals, especially this tier with crit and det being split down the middle (minus bracelet). Like the coil body alone provides close to 3% crit whereas the Poe body will give you about 10hp heal gain through its det. To make the comparison a full Det stacked build will Physick for 1356 avg. with a 10.35% crit chance with det food; Meanwhile a crit stacked build Physick for 1301 avg. with a 23.38% crit chance with crit food. So really your choice is 13.01% crit or 55hp heal gains or somewhere in between if ya mix an match.

    That said, go with what you want cause honestly secondary stats are pretty trash in this game and are merely the forte of min-maxers after they get tricked out. Like the only reason Sch's stack crit is because it's the least trashiest of the trash since it synergizes so well with the galvanize mechanic.
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