Locked out of the Duty Finder.

[Commander_Justitia]

Even if you are not withdrawing...there are other issues...

Searched for Garuda Ex. and found a already playing party. I joined and was alone in the dungeon...great
I leave/abbandon because I dont want to waste 10minutes for the earlierst possible leave without penalty..I search again and same crap happens for 3 times, always land in empty dunngeons.... sigh
Then I had a questcutscene and was 2 slow to skip it...30min penalty ...the second one of today...

Earlier today we kicked a troll 3 times because he managed to get back in our grp... He was pulling the boss immediately and other stuff... This guy would probably get no penatly

[TornadoFury]

this is probably the worst system i have ever seen in a mmorpg. at first i thought this would be ok for solo's who would just look for join in progress for easy tombs and such. But for it to apply to people in parties is just stupid, I've accidently picked the wrong routlette with my team and i withdrew guess what one of my friends has a 30minute penality for my mistake. Now people are joining dungeons and trolling just so they can be kicked and not have to worry about the penality Its really annoying. This should only apply to a solo person queueing if anything making it for parties is probably the worst idea to date. I've joined so many dungeons where everyone leaves or trolls to get kicked its silly I'd rather go back to the old way that was much more effective because atleast i'd finsh dungeons.

[MythToken]

I have never received a withdraw penalty. I guess I am just better at clicking buttons than you? And your friend.....

This is one of the best systems implemented.

All of the people complaining on this thread, are the reason they created this system. You all are the reason there were so many withdraws and long wait times and trolls.

The people who understand how the system works (not complicated) can see it working very well, and keeping you guys out of the dungeons. Its happy times.

[Tupsi]

this is probably the worst system i have ever seen in a mmorpg. at first i thought this would be ok for solo's who would just look for join in progress for easy tombs and such. But for it to apply to people in parties is just stupid, I've accidently picked the wrong routlette with my team and i withdrew guess what one of my friends has a 30minute penality for my mistake.

Means they already had 3 strikes.

[Giantbane]

Means they already had 3 strikes.

Difference is, they didn't deserve this strike because the leader made the mistake. Not him.

[Tupsi]

Difference is, they didn't deserve this strike because the leader made the mistake. Not him.

Doesn't matter, the system is working as intended. It says as plain as day, 3 strikes then you get a lockout, means they gained 3 strikes on their own in that day..you can't overlook that important detail lol. They also said the strikes doesn't happen in full parties for certain content, only partial.

[Souljacker]

Doesn't matter, the system is working as intended. It says as plain as day, 3 strikes then you get a lockout, means they gained 3 strikes on their own in that day..you can't overlook that important detail lol. They also said the strikes doesn't happen in full parties for certain content, only partial.

Regardless of your position on the general wisdom of implementing a penalty rather than redesigning a piece of content to close an exploit, you have to acknowledge that players shouldn't be incurring penalties because of the behavior\mistakes of OTHER players (though I recognize the irony that we have all inherited this "fix" because of the behavior of other players). Those folks who incurred those penalties might have been in two parties before the poster's - it doesn't mean that they as individuals had ever withdrawn from a duty, ever.

The system may be working as intended, but it sure isn't the system of a well-designed piece of content. I still expect they are going to have to revisit this at some point. It's just a sloppy fix to a problem that, had they chosen a design that was tried and true, would have never existed in the first place.

[Noata]

This system exists due to massive abuse by the player base. you are given three strikes per day before a penalty even applies. For those who are having trouble understanding why an entire group gets a penalty for withdrawing. its called accountability. yes I know video games and the Internet in general has moved away from this. Being responsible and accountable for ones actions extends to even those you choose to associate with. if you make a party with someone who gives you a strike you made that choice. This is a very welcome mechanic and will do well to keep people in line. Even when catastrophe hits and some how you managed to get three strikes. its only 30 minutes. It should not change

[Souljacker]

I disagree. This is a social game and as such, socializing should be encouraged. All this will do is cause fewer players to join up with a PF group because they might end up with a penalty. This isn't about who you "choose to associate with" - this is an arbitrary punishment for doing nothing more than joining up with a PF group to clear a piece of content.

The attitude that everyone should be punished because a couple of players used the system that SE originally gave us (hey - they made it possible to fish. Don't hate the players for using a system SE had in the game) is a toxic one. Better solutions can be found that don't involve punishing players who may have never fished a queue in their lives.

[Noata]

It is a social game, that is exactly why when a party leader is not social and just Q's or a person gets busy and doesnt speak up we get this withdraw issues. you have two options, become more responsable, social and accountable, or incur penalties
This is not messing with PF at all. I have seen no one say "I wont join PF because of this" These penalties are earned, it takes THREE. I have yet to get "one". Its easy to make a PF and ask people if they are ready to Q, 9/10 though your PF is a full party and this entire penalty system doesn't even apply. In fact penalty wise for withdrawing a PF group is SAFER. if anything this will make people want to completely party up.

When you PF and have less then a full group, it takes less then 1 minute to ask if everyone is ready. Its also easy to drop from Q when a member of the party says, gotta do this quick story quest, or crafting this item really quick, or even brb I need to do X, Y or Z.

be social, be responsible, because you are held accountable.

Also just because someone took advantage of a system to fish does not mean it was intended. It just shows that good intentions don't work with people not being held accountable. So make what abuse was happening stop. Unfortunately in order to stop something its alot like a law, people dont just follow them, its because when you break them you get punished. If a ton of people were not abusing this to no end, we wouldnt be talking. The only way to stop someone is to have them accountable for the actions, and let the punishment fit the crime. If you REPEATEDLY do this, after three you get a time out!