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  1. #421
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    Eardstapa's Avatar
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrak View Post
    Are the Hitcaps for Final Coil already known? I'm thinking about what poetry-gear i need to buy.
    Probably will be kept tight lipped until someone downs T13.
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  2. #422
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    That is awesome about TA. So pretty much suiton+ TA always and TA from the rear.
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  3. #423
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    Velhart Aurion
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    So has anyone tested stat priorities on NIN yet between Determination ~ Crit ~ Skill Speed?
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  4. #424
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    So has anyone tested stat priorities on NIN yet between Determination ~ Crit ~ Skill Speed?
    Based on low tp consumption I'd say skill speed will help nins a lot in increasing their damage and tying the small gaps between their dots/debuffs together.

    Determination is the other one that Will be pretty important Imo. Of course it's going to depend on what's BiS and how much the skill speed from the poetic all again affects nin.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 11-02-2014 at 05:56 AM.

  5. #425
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Based on low tp consumption I'd say skill speed will help nins a lot in increasing their damage and tying the small gaps between their dots/debuffs together.

    Determination is the other one that Will be pretty important Imo.
    Their TP consumption and speed is the exact same as MNK (slightly worse since they have to do the 60TP starter slightly more often) so I don't see how that's an argument supporting skillspeed.
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  6. #426
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    I keep hearing people argue between Crit and Det, but not seeing any actual data off any of them.
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  7. #427
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Their TP consumption and speed is the exact same as MNK (slightly worse since they have to do the 60TP starter slightly more often) so I don't see how that's an argument supporting skillspeed.
    Not exactly the same due to mudra casts so it just feels like it consumes tp slower to me.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 11-02-2014 at 07:28 AM.

  8. #428
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    JakzChurchill's Avatar
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    On the flip side though, the faster your GCD you more time your mudras eat into, as they cannot be sped up by skillspeed. And Jutsu is used so often that I feel this would be a hefty loss.

    I don't have any numbers to back this up ofcourse, but I feel crit + det is still going to be the best way to go.
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  9. #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    On the flip side though, the faster your GCD you more time your mudras eat into, as they cannot be sped up by skillspeed. And Jutsu is used so often that I feel this would be a hefty loss.

    I don't have any numbers to back this up ofcourse, but I feel crit + det is still going to be the best way to go.
    Really, that's good to know. If that's the case then you're probably right.
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  10. #430
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    I don't have ninja yet but how about this rotation
    Huton xpot Saiton b4b TA IR dots kassatsu raiton the combo 123, is that a viable good opening.
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