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  1. #51
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    ExiaQuanta's Avatar
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrn View Post
    On the negative side I'll never be able to help my friends if they're stuck in a in-progress dungeon without a tank or healer anymore, guess not being able to help the ones you want is the price to pay.
    I believe withdrawing when DF pop and Going into a dungeon to see if your in the right party and then pulling out is 2 different things.

    If you withdraw 3 times when DF Pop, its a penalty

    However if you que in progress, accepted it, see how you didnt get your friends party and pull out, it shouldnt give you a penalty.
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    Project Ziek
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    There's also another way of looking at it too...now there will be an increase in cases of people just sitting AFK, waiting to be kicked. And as far as I'm concerned, a penalty for being kicked 3 times in a day wasn't mentioned. Also, now you can't enter into a duty to help a friend in need without risking your own tail.
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  3. #53
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    This is bad because I alt tab a lot after I queue when I come back I find that I have missed the queue and it happens quite often.
    System Configuration. Sound Settings. Enable "Play sounds when window is not active." Enable "Play system sounds when waiting for Duty Finder."
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta View Post
    I believe withdrawing when DF pop and Going into a dungeon to see if your in the right party and then pulling out is 2 different things.

    If you withdraw 3 times when DF Pop, its a penalty

    However if you que in progress, accepted it, see how you didnt get your friends party and pull out, it shouldnt give you a penalty.
    If your friends are in a dungeon, that gives a boss counter on the In Progress window (0/3, 2/3, whatever...), then you may have to withdraw a couple of times to get the right in progress, before you can then join in to see if you get in the right group. So, this does affect people wanting to help out their friends in a way. Because, you know, the way SE decided to build this game from the ground up and not being able to send tells or invite friends into the party while inside a dungeon.
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  5. #55
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Sevro Barca
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Am I the only one that hopes it IS a full day lockout?

    That being said it's probably just as others have said. 3-strikes, you get 30 min penalty after each subsequent withdraw, strikes reset at 9:00am
    I'm all for the full day lockout. As someone who has missed a few queues by being on the toilet or making a cup of coffee it doesn't bother me cause it never happens 3+ times a day.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    So you've never made a premade group and then a FC member asked if they could go just as the que popped and withdrew? That happens all the time when I play.
    Easy solution to that. Click commence go into instance. If they really have to go, they can take a 30 minute penalty and leave. Done, piece of cake. Otherwise if it is just the bathroom, people can wait 2 minute in the instance it will be better than the endless withdrawal nonsense. This way people are communicating and working it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Some queues can get pretty long. You get up for a drink, have to use the restroom, you're in the middle of crafting or you're in battle on the wrong class at the wrong time and all of a sudden you're down a strike.
    ...
    No you won't. Run away from the monster and you will be able to switch class in less than 30 seconds. Abandon your craft. You are taking for granted the time of other players. Beside you got 45 seconds to wrap up whatever you are doing.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-25-2014 at 04:52 AM.

  7. #57
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    Lord Rulkar
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    I'm pretty sure the 3 times withdraw was targeted for 3 times on the same duty? Not 3 times the whole day. I mean you withdraw from duty a, then queue for duty b, then withdraw. Now you drop that and queue for duty c. That's 3 withdrawals but it's not of the same duty so I don't think that counts. I think this setting is mostly to catch the ppl doing ST, CT, and Frontlines from spamming the withdrawal. But i have also seen an increase in withdrawals on Expert and High level roulettes too lately.
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  8. #58
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta View Post
    I believe withdrawing when DF pop and Going into a dungeon to see if your in the right party and then pulling out is 2 different things.

    If you withdraw 3 times when DF Pop, its a penalty

    However if you que in progress, accepted it, see how you didnt get your friends party and pull out, it shouldnt give you a penalty.
    Would be nice if they could try to:
    let people in dungeons with an empty party slot invite people on their friendslist, free company or linkshell to come into the instance they're in instead of waiting for the DF system to throw someone in
    let people queue just for the instances their friends are in so they don't get thrown into some random party when they don't care about the dungeon

    From what I remember they already made it so people who joined a dungeon as a party of 2-3 people only get one combined vote for vote kick so I don't see people abusing those suggestions being abused but maybe I just imagined the vote thing.
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  9. #59
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    OdinEon's Avatar
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    Char Landale
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    Mateus
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    No where does it say locked out for a full day... people have just jumped on this, because it says timer will be reset, timer reset not the same as penalized time.
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  10. #60
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinEon View Post
    No where does it say locked out for a full day... people have just jumped on this, because it says timer will be reset, timer reset not the same as penalized time.
    Correct. Essentially you are locked out until 9am. So if you are playing at 8:59am go ahead and blow your 3 strikes, you'll get 3 new ones in 1 minute. But if you blow your 3 strikes at 9:01am you're screwed until tomorrow.
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