Cash shop confirmed

[Aegis]

I will also point out that while you seem to accept the cash shop standard in MMOs... you seem to largely ignore how they are implemented.. which is confusing.

That's because acknowledging they have so far invariably sold game-affecting things like insta-levelling or in game currency hurts his argument.

[Yshnal]

Snip

I like how you cut and forget key parts of my points to be able to "prove" yours, together with your strawman arguments, as usual.

I'm done with you. Have fun :3

[Gucci_Charms]

So gonna buy the Odin mount!

[Alukah]

Mog Station. Fantasias. Extra Retainers.

Been here for months and you've likely played since at least 2.3.

Why are you assuming people are okay with those?

Also since you're a XI expert (obsessed) and are always striving to turn this into XI HD remake, how did the cash shop work there?

[SinisterIsBack]

As long as they stick to past event items, I don't see a problem with this.

HOWEVER...

Sleipnir Mount was set to be an item obtainable from Urth's Fount (Extreme),

Source? There is no official stating that the mount was obtainable from Odin Extreme, hell at this point we don't know much of anything besides what they are offering.

[Lethorian]

I'm not sure if this was brought up yet or not, and honestly I'd be shocked if it hasn't, but here is goes...

What do people generally spend gil on? Vanity items, minions, housing items? Aside from carries, housing plots, and materia I don't see much else to spend it on. When I look at the MB some of these items are going for millions of gil. Baby opo-opo? Farm mythflox for weeks if you want a shot at this little puppy. Xande's Throne? An equal amount of time in ST if you want to be the proud owner of this bad boy. Otherwise you are off to the MB to obtain these items. I hope you have 3 million gil to toss away for one of these items. You don't? No big deal! Off to the RMT you go!

I'm sorry playerbase, but you have already voted for a cash shop. That time you threw your cash away for a few million gil in order to show off your new minion or housing item was a vote for SE to impliment their own cash shop. Now that SE has their net out to catch the beautiful butterflies flapping from your wallets it is far too late to change your vote. Could SE have thought of a better way to fight RMT? Sure, but you have already proved that you will spend your hard earned money on in game items and now they want a piece of the pie. No amount of QQing is going to change that. Not your boycott, not your abscence of a subscription, nothing. The next time you, or know someone who is, thinking about buying gil to fund themselves in game think long and hard on it, because SE is going to look for a way to cash in on it. Need materia for your Novus? That will be the next thing you see in the cash shop. Need to clear content and can't afford the gil to purchase a carry? SE will find a way for you to pay them for it. Need that housing plot? $25 my little friend. There is no turning back from what we have started, don't let it go further than this, THAT is how you vote.

[RedAntares]

I know, TERA Online RNG cashshop is just plain money drainer.

I would definitely be against the cash shop if they started to add RNG boxes like some other games have done but the games that normally have those are Free to Play.

[Phe]

what I read here is hilarious.

best part:
"SE doesn't need the money."

IT IS AN ENTERPRISE.
ENTERPRISES GOAL: MAKING MONEY.
THEY WILL MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET.
DEAL WITH IT.

[Erudain]

Tl;dr version:

Against: "No P2P MMO should have a Cash Shop, I mean, look at all of the MMOs that milk players with game breaking items. I forgot to mention these are F2P and Pay to Win MMORPGs and never has happened in a P2P MMO before."

It has already been explained to you, in this thread and in other threads, that all those games started with their Cash Shop while they were still P2P and later went F2P...first a couple vanity to test the waters, then more and more vanity stuff, then finally some "comodity items" to test the waters again, then more comodities items, rinse and repeat.
Then when subscriptions started to drop, they turn to full F2P with a pay to win cash shop as they are now.

I don't know how long everyone here has been into MMORPGs gaming, maybe to some ppl this is their first MMO, or maybe they just played WoW/XI.
People making assumptions here of what will happen are not doing so because they are wicked or evil or hate SE....they are doing them before they've seen the exact same things, argument and defenders saying "no way that's going to happen" happen in countles other AAA MMOs for the past decade.

[Riviere]

It has already been explained to you, in this thread and in other threads, that all those games started with their Cash Shop while they were still P2P and later went F2P.

Out of curiosity, what are some examples of these games?