SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Kensei]

Because people like you poison the community and that is... whats the word.... BAD. You say the same things over and over because you have no way of verifying your data. Hey Kensei i just logged on and leveled in an hour same damn time frame as pre-patch... you have posted page after page of nothing but I'm more right because i say so. If you wanted to give constructive feed back this thread would have ended at page 11, but rather you are trolling these forums objecting any new ideas or "facts" that are brought to you.

leave please for the love of god leave, if SP gain is so gimped like you say you must be a masochist...

I poison the community because I pointed out that the producer of the game did something he specifically said he wouldn't. Great reasoning you have there.

You know why this thread didn't die at page one? Because people who claim the game is great now and are very happy with the changes of 1.18 keep posting again and again. Why is that? If I am so wrong why do they keep trolling this thread nonstop instead of going online and enjoying the game. If people who didn't agree just ignore the thread it would have either died or would be much smaller because it would have been a discussion of those suffering the same situation and sharing their experiences.

I keep repeating myself because they keep bringing up the same argument over and over that I have already answered them many times.

I have not once trolled. All I have done is reply to those posters who can't handle somebody disagreeing with them. Some of you think the SP/hour is the same or better and I am wrong? Cool! Then why won't you stop posting here?

[Bled]

I poison the community because I pointed out that the producer of the game did something he specifically said he wouldn't. Great reasoning you have there.

You know why this thread didn't die at page one? Because people who claim the game is great now and are very happy with the changes of 1.18 keep posting again and again. Why is that? If I am so wrong why do they keep trolling this thread nonstop instead of going online and enjoying the game. If people who didn't agree just ignore the thread it would have either died or would be much smaller because it would have been a discussion of those suffering the same situation and sharing their experiences.

I keep repeating myself because they keep bringing up the same argument over and over that I have already answered them many times.

I have not once trolled. All I have done is reply to those posters who can't handle somebody disagreeing with them. Some of you think the SP/hour is the same or better and I am wrong? Cool! Then why won't you stop posting here?

I have continued to dip in because *see my first sentence* you are poisoning the community and have given and don't intend to give anything constructive. The fact that you think that Yoshi lied to you is cute and debatable which is not even relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Trust me if i could play the game right now i would not be sitting on these forums watching you cry. Let me lay this out for you if Yoshi lied to you and you are so detested by someone lying why don't you leave?!?!?

IMO Yoshi did not lie at all and you are being a drama queen looking for attention, even if Yoshi "lied" welcome to the real world where the people actually developing get the final say in the product.. get over yourself.

[Kensei]

I have continued to dip in because *see my first sentence* you are poisoning the community and have given and don't intend to give anything constructive. The fact that you think that Yoshi lied to you is cute and debatable which is not even relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Trust me if i could play the game right now i would not be sitting on these forums watching you cry. Let me lay this out for you if Yoshi lied to you and you are so detested by someone lying why don't you leave?!?!?

IMO Yoshi did not lie at all and you are being a drama queen looking for attention, even if Yoshi "lied" welcome to the real world where the people actually developing get the final say in the product.. get over yourself.

With the OP I was expressing my displeasure with the game not reflecting what the producer said in the letter. It was my wish to share that with the community to see if others felt the same. Turns out many do.

As always some people don't agree but then there is some people that can't be satisfied with not agreeing they must make everyone else think like them. That is the problem. It will not happen. Me and many others have seen our SP progression slow down to a crawl.

You guys can tell me any way you like that you are doing just as good or better now. It doesn't change the fact that when I play that is not the case for me. And that is fine, we don't have to agree. What is there to gain for you and others to try and ridicule me or prove me wrong for having a bad experience post-patch with the game? And again I am not alone in this.

I am not detested by Yoshi lying. It bothered me to be deceived by someone who has otherwise done a fantastic job considering the circumstances in which he inherited the game. It may not have been intentional, maybe their data reflected something different, but the result is that SP/hour has been reduced in mine and other players experiences.

Why would I be looking for attention? Is it my fault that there are people who disagree with me won't rest until the world agrees with them? I'm not getting paid for this, I'm not getting fame, I expressed my displeasure with something. Is that a crime? I can only post positive things?

I'm lost as to why you would consider someone having a bad experience and sharing it poison but there's nothing I can do about that.

[Bled]

With the OP I was expressing my displeasure with the game not reflecting what the producer said in the letter. It was my wish to share that with the community to see if others felt the same. Turns out many do.

As always some people don't agree but then there is some people that can't be satisfied with not agreeing they must make everyone else think like them. That is the problem. It will not happen. Me and many others have seen our SP progression slow down to a crawl.

You guys can tell me any way you like that you are doing just as good or better now. It doesn't change the fact that when I play that is not the case for me. And that is fine, we don't have to agree. What is there to gain for you and others to try and ridicule me or prove me wrong for having a bad experience post-patch with the game? And again I am not alone in this.

I am not detested by Yoshi lying. It bothered me to be deceived by someone who has otherwise done a fantastic job considering the circumstances in which he inherited the game. It may not have been intentional, maybe their data reflected something different, but the result is that SP/hour has been reduced in mine and other players experiences.

Why would I be looking for attention? Is it my fault that there are people who disagree with me won't rest until the world agrees with them? I'm not getting paid for this, I'm not getting fame, I expressed my displeasure with something. Is that a crime? I can only post positive things?

I'm lost as to why you would consider someone having a bad experience and sharing it poison but there's nothing I can do about that.

Is it an opinion if your just blindly and inescapably wrong?

person 1- I think the world is flat!!!!
person 2- here is the proof saying its not
person 1- I still think the world is flat because i said so and 3 people agree with me!!!

That's just ignorance...

30% of posts are you, 68% of posts are people counter arguing you, 2% jumped in and threw in their two cents that agreed with you; so im not understanding your argument of "It was my wish to share that with the community to see if others felt the same. Turns out many do".
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[Kensei]

Is it an opinion if your just blindly and inescapably wrong?

person 1- I think the world is flat!!!!
person 2- here is the proof saying its not
person 1- I still think the world is flat because i said so and 3 people agree with me!!!

That's just ignorance...

30% of posts are you, 68% of posts are people counter arguing you, 2% jumped in and threw in their two cents that agreed with you; so im not understanding your argument of "It was my wish to share that with the community to see if others felt the same. Turns out many do".
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It is not an opinion, it is a fact that I'm getting nowhere near the same amount of SP/hour I was getting before the patch. What don't you understand about that?

[Bled]

It is not an opinion, it is a fact that I'm getting nowhere near the same amount of SP/hour I was getting before the patch. What don't you understand about that?

you are getting less SP that's a fact, but sitting in the forums (pry afk in Uldah) bitch*** is not a relevant form of SP/hour thus making your claims invalid. I have great certainty in saying this: Many people have told you too look for new avenues for SP/hour you just will not, which is why you are getting less SP/hour.

[Kensei]

you are getting less SP that's a fact, but sitting in the forums bitch*** is not a relevant form of SP/hour thus making your claims invalid. I have great certainty in saying this: Many people have told you too look for new avenues for SP/hour you just will not, which is why you are getting less SP/hour.

The only time I provided any fresh info was in the OP. Ever since then I've only had to repeat the same point in different over and over to people who failed to understand it in the OP. So I don't see how I am just sitting in the forums complaining when all I have done is share the same experience.

When have I said that I don't know how to get SP? In fact in the OP I explain my experience with every way of SP gain. I replied to yourself a few pages back that I knew how to get SP and that was not an issue to me. It's just that now it takes me 3 times the time to get the same SP I used to.

[Xmbei]

I poison the community because I pointed out that the producer of the game did something he specifically said he wouldn't. Great reasoning you have there.

You know why this thread didn't die at page one? Because people who claim the game is great now and are very happy with the changes of 1.18 keep posting again and again. Why is that? If I am so wrong why do they keep trolling this thread nonstop instead of going online and enjoying the game. If people who didn't agree just ignore the thread it would have either died or would be much smaller because it would have been a discussion of those suffering the same situation and sharing their experiences.

I keep repeating myself because they keep bringing up the same argument over and over that I have already answered them many times.

I have not once trolled. All I have done is reply to those posters who can't handle somebody disagreeing with them. Some of you think the SP/hour is the same or better and I am wrong? Cool! Then why won't you stop posting here?

with the same over and over and over blatent wrong answer... self righteous answer of my behest is right and your sp/hr ratings are wrong! so of course the same thing will be said over and over again because you keep saying the same arguement over and over again

[Kensei]

with the same over and over and over blatent wrong answer... self righteous answer of my behest is right and your sp/hr ratings are wrong! so of course the same thing will be said over and over again because you keep saying the same arguement over and over again

In mine and many others experience SP/hour gains are slower post patch. You are of those who say it is the same or faster. We don't agree and that's ok. Why do you feel the need to make others agree with you?

[Xmbei]

In mine and many others experience SP/hour gains are slower post patch. You are of those who say it is the same or faster. We don't agree and that's ok. Why do you feel the need to make others agree with you?

why do YOU feel the need to make other's agree with YOU? this is all I am seeing I have only posted on people's flaws in their arguement. I could care less about what the Sp/hr is lol as long as I have fun... I could be getting 1sp/kill but as long as I have fun seeing the world getting the story and have people to interact with (which is the point of an MMO) I will be fine