How am I meant to level with a friend now?

[LuxLex]

dude its obvious you think this game sucks.. save your breath.. go play Rift or WoW or LoTR or something.... there are a million games out there why waste your time crying on a forum for a game you despise?

I don't despise it. Crikes, can we can the whole "if you don't like every single thing in the game you should go away now" thing? Sorry, I like this game, so I am going to fight to save it.

[SuzakuCMX]

dude its obvious you think this game sucks.. save your breath.. go play Rift or WoW or LoTR or something.... there are a million games out there why waste your time crying on a forum for a game you despise?

But there's grinding in those games, and I think he's made it pretty clear he doesn't like grinding unless it's in FFXI.

[Dubont]

dude its obvious you think this game sucks.. save your breath.. go play Rift or WoW or LoTR or something.... there are a million games out there why waste your time crying on a forum for a game you despise?

don't suggest him to WoW or LoTR...those are more grindy than FFXIV and he will just go troll the forums about how the game is "hard" and "unfun" because he can't hit max level in a day...

[Forbin]

I don't despise it. Crikes, can we can the whole "if you don't like every single thing in the game you should go away now" thing? Sorry, I like this game, so I am going to fight to save it.

lol save what? It has gotten better.. not worse clown shoes. I give up.. if SE listenes to LuxLex i'll just quit again.. like i did before because the game sucked so bad.. if it was so good before 1.18 why did the population INCREASE afterwards and why did so many people quit before 1.18 and go back to XI and other games?

[LuxLex]

Aside from exploiting on FFXI (which people still do, yes..people DO still summoner burn) .

A) summoner burn is not exploiting.
B) when is the last time you played XI? No one is summoner burning when they can get more exp with less hassle in GoV alliances.

[Forbin]

don't suggest him to WoW or LoTR...those are more grindy than FFXIV and he will just go troll the forums about how the game is "hard" and "unfun" because he can't hit max level in a day...

at least he wouldn't be here..

[Warp]

then it has changed since the last time I used it. At any rate, with all of your brilliance, how many active players does FFXI have?

It's always been this way. You have the option of linking your account, but even if you don't... your auction history will still be tracked.

Anyways, there are currently ~330,443 active characters... which would includes mules too. I'm sure you're going to try to make a point how there are thousands of active accounts that have never used the auction house... but save your breath.

[Drez]

You have got to be kidding me. Took less than 4 months for me to get to 90 with two different sub jobs and a lot of missions under my belt.

I grinded in XIV for 6 months and got to 33.

I honestly have to question exactly what you were doing in both games. Saying 4 months to 90 and 6 months to 33 really doesn't tell us anything. Total hours played to reach these levels is what matters. It's really easy to skew the numbers by saying it took you 6 months, but neglecting to mention if you only played a few hours a week and took frequent breaks from the game. The same sort of number skewing would apply to the former claim of 4 months as well. You also fail to mention if you were leveling other classes/jobs or focusing on one and only one, possibly further skewing your claim.

Also as many have already pointed out if you have actually been playing with any sort of follow through, you should be far FAR higher than 33. I played fairly regularly from the games launch until early January before I quit (came back recently to see how the update changed things.) In that 3 months I hit rank 30+ (I just hit rank 33 today) and got several other crafting and combat classes between 10-20.

I by no means put in any amount of hours that one could consider to be "hardcore" I played heavily on release and it slowly dwindled down to nothing. Overall I probably averaged 10 hours a week over 3 months. I also never took advantage of any exploits, and I think I joined an exp mob grind party a grand total of once.

EDIT: I also feel the need to point out that comparing anything in XIV to ANY content in XI that was released in 2005 or later is faulty. You are comparing content of a game that has had 8 YEARS to build a foundation and design content around, to a game that for all intents and purposes should still not be released to the public.

[LuxLex]

lol save what? It has gotten better.. not worse clown shoes. I give up.. if SE listenes to LuxLex i'll just quit again.. like i did before because the game sucked so bad.. if it was so good before 1.18 why did the population INCREASE afterwards and why did so many people quit before 1.18 and go back to XI and other games?

Did I say nothing had gotten better? For one thing, I think collision detection is much better now. Yey not walking around tiny ledges.

As for the population getting bigger, I am sure a few people have come back and will play regularly, but I don't think you can count people coming and checking out the patch as permanent quite yet.

I am advocating for things that didn't work in this patch to get fixed. That isn't the same thing as hating the game.

[Dubont]

A) summoner burn is not exploiting.
B) when is the last time you played XI? No one is summoner burning when they can get more exp with less hassle in GoV alliances.

a) Then leve linking, then failing just before the end isn't exploiting
b) I haven't played on my account in years, but I played on my alt, which is shared between myself, my g/f and my roomy, about 3 months ago and yes...I got a smn burn party... =)