about egi's models

[Gralna]

Or we could just accept the egis as they are, instead of trying to make them into FFXI SMN.... just a thought....

[winxbloom61]

not trying to make them as xi smns TRYING TO MAKE THEM THE WAY THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN the egis arent summons at all they just basicly elementals no diffrent than the fire elemental monsters and such im so sick of idoits thinking just cuz we ask of something it relates to xi

[Shougun]

not trying to make them as xi smns TRYING TO MAKE THEM THE WAY THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN the egis are summons at all they just basicly elementals no diffrent than the fire elemental monsters and such im so sick of idoits thinking just cuz we ask of something it relates to xi

I can tell you are passionate on this subject, I too think the egi's look silly and not fitting in comparison to any other FF game or other MMORPG (though we may have different end goals, it appears) - but I hope you know calling people and devs names is a good way to not be heard by anyone (GMs will come wakka wakka mean stuff).

I guess that's reasonable. I believe Titan is a little fat compared to his primal version. Just slim down the sides...perfect!

Yeah I think you're right, he is more skewed to the sides than his primal version. I should have said fatter as in larger lol.

[Renik]

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Most people is not pleased with the SMN job as a whole, we have these threads everyday. I know the answer they gave to us, but giving negative answers is the same things as ignoring the feedback, they claim to be listening, but they keep ignoring our feedback, discarding some good ideas and making their half fixes, because they know most of us aren't going anywhere...

And the same way you think using resources to fix this is a waste, i think using resources to make more dungeons and primals is also a waste, your opinion is not more important or valid than mine. But i'll give you this, it's indeed something that can be fixed slowly, without any rush, but it's not something ignorable, and if they are going to invest resources to rehash old content, i prefer them to fix SMN.

[Dwill]

Most people is not pleased with the SMN job as a whole

And on what data do you base yourself upon to make such a statement ? I hope it's not this forum, a place where <1% of the people post. Last I checked, there was 300,000+ level 50 Arcanists. Let's be pessimist and say only a fourth are summoner, which makes 75,000 summoners. Here's the definition of most:

most

adjective \ˈmōst\ : almost all : the majority of
: greatest in amount or degree


So you're telling me that 38,250 summoners (which is the majority at 51 %) aren't pleased with the job ? Especially since it seems that this more of a local issue, considering that the japanese seems to have no issue with it (or they actually read the answer from the developers, accepted it and went on their way).

Sorry but if you tell me yes, you look like a fool.

we have these threads everyday. I know the answer they gave to us, but giving negative answers is the same things as ignoring the feedback, they claim to be listening, but they keep ignoring our feedback, discarding some good ideas and making their half fixes, because they know most of us aren't going anywhere...

So if someone says no, it's the same as ignoring you ? What kind of backward logic is that ? I'm sorry but nearly every ideas tossed around here are either

1. Totally unbalanced as nearly no one with your line of thinking as any semblance of knowledge about MMO balance.
2. Don't follow the lore.
3. Makes no sense in this game.
4. A mix of 2 or more of the above.

There's a reason sane developers don't touch the ideas found on this forum with a ten foot pole.

And the same way you think using resources to fix this is a waste, i think using resources to make more dungeons and primals is also a waste, your opinion is not more important or valid than mine. But i'll give you this, it's indeed something that can be fixed slowly, without any rush, but it's not something ignorable, and if they are going to invest resources to rehash old content, i prefer them to fix SMN.

Seriously, I can't even believe someone made that comparison.How is them "fixing" (something that isn't broken to begin with) that affects just a slight amount of players a better use of ressources than something which affects the entire playerbase ? Think really hard for a second, I'm sure you'll be able to come up with the answer.

[Atomnium]

Or we could just accept the egis as they are, instead of trying to make them into FFXI SMN.... just a thought....

To be honest, I for one would be really ready to accept as they re if they were not looking like that they got draw by a 3 years old kid, different ff games = different summons looks but it doesn't mean to accept those... messed and ugly/weird/diseased pixels "following-derping" us in Eorzea.

It's very obvious that those egis got designed in like a couple of hours and in a rush before 2.0 release (feeling like they forgot to create egis when they worked on carbuncle or idk).

Anyway, this got discussed many times in every languages by thousands of other people for the last 12 months, the dev team is well aware of the mess, they will just do better next time.

[winxbloom61]

im perfectly fine with them not being like the primals but at the very least they should look similer as some one said before a example of whati mean is the chibi ramuh's in the fight. the only egi we have that looks any where near what they should is titan and thats only the white things on him

personally id prefer a time system on summons instend of them being out till they are killed but thats just me ~_~